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DJ Mikey Mike
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quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
fundacion catters to the others



Fundacion caters for the people that we're 'raving it up' to Tiesto less than 6 months ago, and have now realised it's cool to like Sasha.

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Fundacion has great flow.


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for me personally, involver was a super-well put together cd that mixed a range of sounds (outside of dance music) as well in a really classy way.

fundacion too is quite a well put together cd with a couple of particularly bright moments and covers a range of edm. but it's sounds are more on the experimental side... having been to 3 fundacion nyc gigs, i don't think the overall cd captures the sound of the live gigs much at all! but then sasha only claims to have used the residency for inspiration, this is not supposed to capture its sound. the cd itself is really well done... it just doesn't feature the clubby sasha tracks i'd like to see, but i can understand sasha's reluctance to do that... it's been done and it's boring for someone who has done it really well a long time before. he's tried to go somewhere new with it and he succeeded at that. its a great cd but overall involver wins in a tremendous way!

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quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i like both albums...i'm sure sasha's goal wasn't to make involver 2...so i don't think you guys should've expected it to be that...


+1, but i still like involver more.

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quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
which is better, the McLaren F1, or a bowl of chicken soup?


McLaren F1


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Both great. I haven't listened to fundacion enough to compare, I do like the 3xLP though.

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Funny I was just listening to Involver.


I love both...but technically its clear that Fundacion is just way beyond involver.

Fundacion is ahead of its time...people dont like it because its too different...

...which is why I like it


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completely different kinds of albums


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noikeee
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quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
involver catters to the pussy trance crowd omg buildup emotional crap




are you sure you weren't given a tiesto cd by mistake?

i thought involver was good. i've been slowly getting out of progressive so probably it isn't my thing anymore. fundacion, i've just only heard it once, but wasn't too impressed. it's decent, but nowhere near the hype. the ableton mixing sounds ultra smooth at times but very dodgy at others, like percurssions clashing all over the place (am i the only one that noticed this?!), it just generally sounds mechanic instead of natural which isn't good. sasha gets bonus points for including 3 or 4 very good tracks but the rest aren't great, perhaps they need to grow on me.

so, overall, i'd say involver is a bit better but my opinion could change.


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quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
they're two totally different concepts, people..

which is better, the McLaren F1, or a bowl of chicken soup? honestly, come on.


Oh stop the bullshit, they ARE comparable. They're both mixed music cd's by Sasha, which means they fall both into some category, that doesn't happen with a McLaren F1 and a bowl of chicken soup. The difference is that in Involver Sasha "dismounted" the tracks into pieces, remixed a bit each one of them then mixed it. In Fundacion he tries to do the same, without "dismounting" the tracks, but rather dealing with what he is given (the full tracks), focusing more on the mixing as one piece and less of the remixing track by track. Is this really that different? Hell, I'd say they aren't even very far off in musical style/genres.


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Fundacion is boring and whatever he used to make it Ableton it didn't do a thing for me


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