Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > Can the United States establish a stable, democratic government in Iraq?
Can the United States establish a stable, democratic government in Iraq?
You do not have permission to vote on this poll.
Yes, because... 8 36.36%
No, because 14 63.64%
Total: 22 votes 100%
  [Edit Poll (moderators only)]

Pages (3): « 1 2 [3]   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

It can work but it's going to be up to the people of Iraq to decide to want it to.
The States will be there for as long as they (the Iraqis) can pull themselves together; something no one else has ever given them the chance to do without some sort of repression.


___________________
"...End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path...one that we all must take.
The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

Old Post Jul-28-2005 16:13  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for Fir3start3r Click here to Send Fir3start3r a Private Message Add Fir3start3r to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Kapedano
Forza Inter!



Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Virginia Beach

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
continue with this pathetic racist attitude and you'll most likely get banned.

p.s with that reply you finally showed how mature you really are and it shows that obviously you are not ready for political discussions.

so get lost or go back to COR


There isnt anything racist what i just said, you just think every Bush supporter is racist because of your litle small brain. Have you ever seen me be a regular at COR? No, so i suggest you should stop make bald statements. I think your the one here not ready for a political discussion because all you do is bash Bush and the U.S, thats your only political knollege, oh yeah and U.S is in the M.E to steal thier oil. You can joke me all you want about my age but i have more political knollege then you will ever have in your whole life my friend.

Old Post Jul-28-2005 16:47  Albania
Click Here to See the Profile for Kapedano Click here to Send Kapedano a Private Message Add Kapedano to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Krypton
83.798 g/6.022x10^23



Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
There isnt anything racist what i just said, you just think every Bush supporter is racist because of your litle small brain. Have you ever seen me be a regular at COR? No, so i suggest you should stop make bald statements. I think your the one here not ready for a political discussion because all you do is bash Bush and the U.S, thats your only political knollege, oh yeah and U.S is in the M.E to steal thier oil. You can joke me all you want about my age but i have more political knollege then you will ever have in your whole life my friend.


i never saw anyone but u totally abandon the debate and launch into a wave of personal insults that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. you my friend dont belong in this debate.


___________________

Old Post Jul-28-2005 18:34  Korea-Democratic Peoples Republic
Click Here to See the Profile for Krypton Click here to Send Krypton a Private Message Visit Krypton's homepage! Add Krypton to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Michael19
Liverpool FC fan



Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Eire

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
There isnt anything racist what i just said, you just think every Bush supporter is racist because of your litle small brain. Have you ever seen me be a regular at COR? No, so i suggest you should stop make bald statements. I think your the one here not ready for a political discussion because all you do is bash Bush and the U.S, thats your only political knollege, oh yeah and U.S is in the M.E to steal thier oil. You can joke me all you want about my age but i have more political knollege then you will ever have in your whole life my friend.



COp on for fuck sake.

This forum doesnt really accept personal insults, if thats what your looking for go to the COr.Otherwise debate the points like an adult and leave the childish crap out.

Bush will never allow a truly deomcatic goverment, just like he did during the elections against al gore. THe future of iraqi all depends on wether the AMerican troops are ever withdrawn.


___________________
Liverpool Champions of Europe 2005!


TA's NFL survival League winner 2006!

Old Post Jul-28-2005 18:58 
Click Here to See the Profile for Michael19 Click here to Send Michael19 a Private Message Add Michael19 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
hardcore trancer
Mystic Mind



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
There isnt anything racist what i just said, you just think every Bush supporter is racist because of your litle small brain. Have you ever seen me be a regular at COR? No, so i suggest you should stop make bald statements. I think your the one here not ready for a political discussion because all you do is bash Bush and the U.S, thats your only political knollege, oh yeah and U.S is in the M.E to steal thier oil. You can joke me all you want about my age but i have more political knollege then you will ever have in your whole life my friend.



yup you won the discussion and I lost,you are truly the one with the brain here and the knowledge.


___________________
Mystic Mind - DJ Mixes
http://soundcloud.com/mystic-mind

Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/DJMysticMind

Old Post Jul-28-2005 19:45 
Click Here to See the Profile for hardcore trancer Click here to Send hardcore trancer a Private Message Visit hardcore trancer's homepage! Add hardcore trancer to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
Bush will never allow a truly deomcatic goverment, just like he did during the elections against al gore. THe future of iraqi all depends on wether the AMerican troops are ever withdrawn.


Not sure exactly what you're trying to say here, other than about 10 different things in 2 sentences...

The future of Iraq depends on the Iraqis, not the Americans.
The Americans have already made it quite clear they're outta there as soon as Iraq has secured itself.
They don't want to be there too much longer either I'm sure.
The problem is if the Americans leave too early and the region falls again to some half-wit, local tribal leader come despot with spite for Western culture.
If that happens, it nullifies everything everyone has been fighting for.


___________________
"...End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path...one that we all must take.
The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

Old Post Jul-28-2005 20:07  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for Fir3start3r Click here to Send Fir3start3r a Private Message Add Fir3start3r to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Michael19
Liverpool FC fan



Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Eire

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Not sure exactly what you're trying to say here, other than about 10 different things in 2 sentences...

The future of Iraq depends on the Iraqis, not the Americans.
The Americans have already made it quite clear they're outta there as soon as Iraq has secured itself.
They don't want to be there too much longer either I'm sure.
The problem is if the Americans leave too early and the region falls again to some half-wit, local tribal leader come despot with spite for Western culture.
If that happens, it nullifies everything everyone has been fighting for.



How excaclty will iraqi secure itself? its an going to be a very difficult task and take alot of time.

The future depends on the americans, if they leave too early as you say the shit will hit the fan. Its all about when the americans decide to leave. Its going to take years before the iraqi's are able to look after there own affairs. The americans have to stay until they can, otherwise the whole place will break out into a huge civil war.


___________________
Liverpool Champions of Europe 2005!


TA's NFL survival League winner 2006!

Old Post Jul-28-2005 20:19 
Click Here to See the Profile for Michael19 Click here to Send Michael19 a Private Message Add Michael19 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Kapedano
Forza Inter!



Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Virginia Beach

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
i never saw anyone but u totally abandon the debate and launch into a wave of personal insults that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. you my friend dont belong in this debate.


Like you have said something valuable in this whole debate. I didnt abandon it but some people like hardcore make you say stuff that is not appropricate for this forum for thier complete idiotic statements because they cant read well.

Old Post Jul-28-2005 20:29  Albania
Click Here to See the Profile for Kapedano Click here to Send Kapedano a Private Message Add Kapedano to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
hardcore trancer
Mystic Mind



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
Like you have said something valuable in this whole debate. I didnt abandon it but some people like hardcore make you say stuff that is not appropricate for this forum for thier complete idiotic statements because they cant read well.


what did I say that is not appropiate?just because you dont agree or dont understand what Iam saying doesnt make it unapropiate.


___________________
Mystic Mind - DJ Mixes
http://soundcloud.com/mystic-mind

Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/DJMysticMind

Old Post Jul-28-2005 20:42 
Click Here to See the Profile for hardcore trancer Click here to Send hardcore trancer a Private Message Visit hardcore trancer's homepage! Add hardcore trancer to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
George Smiley
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2004
Location: 9 Bywater Street, Chelsea, London

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
George, do yourself a favor and go read Where the Right Went Wrong. This book is entirely about the neoconservative movement, and how they have come into power in the U.S. The author, Pat Buccahan, makes some very interesting points, especially how the neocons see America as a great empire. These people are twisted, and most of allhave no idea how to run an efficient government. What ever happened to the days of small government?

Haven't seen read that book (and have just finished the bit on neoconservatives and starting on Lebanon now) but I did use one of Buchanan's articles on the neoconservative relationship to Israel which was pretty useful (its called "Who's War?" if you haven't seen it and its on the net)

Old Post Jul-28-2005 22:28  England
Click Here to See the Profile for George Smiley Click here to Send George Smiley a Private Message Add George Smiley to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Krypton
83.798 g/6.022x10^23



Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
Like you have said something valuable in this whole debate. I didnt abandon it but some people like hardcore make you say stuff that is not appropricate for this forum for thier complete idiotic statements because they cant read well.


yea i did. i stated my opinion in a rational way free from idiocy for anybody who didnt share my point of view. u were good stating yours then, when somebody came into opposition of what you thought, you didnt counter debate them. instead you childishly insulted them. thats garbage for the forum. i got nothing against you, but im just tellin you, keep the personal insults out. nobody likes reading that.


___________________

Old Post Jul-28-2005 22:37  Korea-Democratic Peoples Republic
Click Here to See the Profile for Krypton Click here to Send Krypton a Private Message Visit Krypton's homepage! Add Krypton to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
ogvh5150
Formula 1 Addict



Registered: Aug 2003
Location: F1 2008 Red Bull Racing/BMW Sauber

Vote


___________________

Old Post Dec-19-2005 16:12 
Click Here to See the Profile for ogvh5150 Click here to Send ogvh5150 a Private Message Add ogvh5150 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > Can the United States establish a stable, democratic government in Iraq?
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (3): « 1 2 [3]  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackOne more =) plz listen and Id [2003] [1]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackOsiris - From East To West [2002]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 20:34.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!