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Originally posted by leedearn hooked on pure cheese?

Not cheese, muppet, pure epic tunes.

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Originally posted by Candeeman Not cheese, muppet, pure epic tunes.

ahahha muppet...thats funny

I have to agree.... Trance hasn't been the same since 2003... productions were much more original then. Of course there are exceptions, but in general I feel a shift towards more Progressive stuff

I too am getting more into Deep/Tech/Electro house, because it's what's moving people these days... and it's different from everything else... but that too will get boring after a while and maybe we will welcome Trance into our brains again

just my 2 cents

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I agree that it has changed, but the diversity of trance over time can always keep me interested. Sometimes I think I am getting tired of it but then I just whip out some of the classic tracks and I am right back into it.

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To all who think that trance isn't undergoing a creative crisis:

Go to a random house music board (mercuryserver.com is a good one) and check to see whether its members complain about the recent state of house music. You will see that virtually no one does.

Then contrast that to trance boards, where almost every day out pops a thread criticizing the genre.

It's time to see the writing on the wall.

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See this thread for the most recent edition of "OMG I've been listening to crap? Unpossible!"

My take, from the same thread:

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Originally posted by Cobalt Eh, honestly, how long were you listening? And how far back did you go from where you picked up the genre? How many different styles did you listen to aside from the overblown epic stuff? Your answers may vary, but I'd say most fans who claim to "grow out" of trance never actually got into trance in the first place. I've noticed a pattern over the past five years or so, one which I took my turn on as well. The average trance listener faces an identity crisis after about a year or two, with sudden realization that much of what got them into the genre was relative crap. Enter progressive from stage left. From there the roads diverge: some leave trance forever and continue hopping genres; some retain an interest in trance, subordinate to some other EDM genre, for which trance was a stepping stone to reaching; finally, some return to trance after their identity crisis, begin to explore the genre's many other facets, and generally stick with it in the long term. I would say I fall in the last camp. After recruitment by the '99 blitz, I hit my progressive phase in 2000, much like the rest of the British isles. I fell into Digweed, Satoshi Tomiie, et al. But instead of becoming an obnoxious proghead (like so many who frequented TA in 2002), I decided that the dubby ploddy sound had lost the plot. Epic trance grows sickly sweet, but progressive house becomes as boring as daily potatoes. So trance called me back via its alternative forms. Soon she revealed to me her illustrious past, and has held me strong since.

But damn, is that electro-progressive stuff ever pulling me closer these days.

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Originally posted by Cobalt See this thread for the most recent edition of "OMG I've been listening to crap? Unpossible!" My take, from the same thread:

Don't get me wrong, I still listen to a lot of goa/psy trance and 'classic' trance that dates back to before 1996.

I am not claiming that trance in its essence is an inferior genre. My observation is merely that the trance mainstream today is undergoing a creative crisis.

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Originally posted by armandzadza To all who think that trance isn't undergoing a creative crisis: Go to a random house music board (mercuryserver.com is a good one) and check to see whether its members complain about the recent state of house music. You will see that virtually no one does. Then contrast that to trance boards, where almost every day out pops a thread criticizing the genre. It's time to see the writing on the wall.

I'd believe that. Its the same on any psy board. You get criticism of some tracks and albums (generally the more trancier sounding stuff), but generally there is a huge ammount of unity, positivity and optimism for the scene.

TA is just one big fuckoff jaded bunch of geezers bitching about how it used to be. God, that is why I love it so much. To be here watching this is like watching ancient Rome rip itself apart. Kinda sad but necessary for evolution. I hope it doesnt stop either, its the only way it'll change from this pathetic supersaw drivelling mess into something respectable again.

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Originally posted by armandzadza I am not claiming that trance in its essence is an inferior genre. My observation is merely that the trance mainstream today is undergoing a creative crisis.

Oh, absolutely. It has been since at least 2003, perhaps earlier. One can recognize that and still be a "tranceaddict". In fact, I'd probably argue that any legit trance fan must recognize this; only inexperienced and transient listeners don't at this point.

That is a really great post, Cobalt. You summed it all up pretty damned good. And I can sure relate. I'm surprised I missed that thread!

This definatly caught my eye at the end...

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So trance called me back via its alternative forms. Soon she revealed to me her illustrious past, and has held me strong since.

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Originally posted by Axolotyl TA is just one big fuckoff jaded bunch of geezers bitching about how it used to be. God, that is why I love it so much. To be here watching this is like watching ancient Rome rip itself apart. Kinda sad but necessary for evolution. I hope it doesnt stop either, its the only way it'll change from this pathetic supersaw drivelling mess into something respectable again.

Well said!