Originally posted by Q5echo
for a lot of reasons that cap eluded to in his post above.
ask yourself, if Israel had lived in peace since 1950 (i realize this may be a stretch for you, but humor me) all this time, do you think they would have them today?
it's a false question but Iran seems to always be behind the real answer. thats why they're Iran. and that's why Iraq and Afghanistan are the way they are now...less than what they will be, if my country has anything to do with it.
So basically it is all about Isreal.I mean it makes sense look at Iraq.They were a threat to Isreal and Americans came and saved their ass.Now Iran is the same Isreal fears them so America will once again come to the rescue and be the hero.
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
and yet America sends billions every year to isreal for god knows what.
we send more to Egypt for "God knows what". point?
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If you look you'd see that Iran is in the same situation.They are surrounded by American troops,so for them having nukes is a method of survival as well.
(p.s althouth there is no proof yet that they are making or developing nukes as of this moment.)
yet there is proof that they have been pursuing nuke weapons ambitions well before the war. before the first gulf war as a matter of fact. point?
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There is only one solution and that is every country that has nukes should get rid of them.Not just specific countries.
we're workin on it. we have 16,000 now. Russia has roughly twice that. by 2012 we have agreed to both posses around 2200. thats the trouble with your generation you have no respect for history and want everything right now
Aug-11-2005 08:49
Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
So basically it is all about Isreal.I mean it makes sense look at Iraq.They were a threat to Isreal and Americans came and saved their ass.Now Iran is the same Isreal fears them so America will once again come to the rescue and be the hero.
when it comes to Iran, yeah, thats a lot of it. we're not coming to the aid of anybody except people that are unable to take care of themselves for the moment. we don't talk to Iran. we haven't (officially) since 1982. trust me, Israel can take care of themselves and would only do so in defence. this is what i was talking about earlier. it's almost paradoxical the way things set themselves up for inevitable peace when you dealing with nukes. it's in everyones nature to live and not die.
but this time it's different. we're talking about Iran and i hope that we are all in agreement Iran is the single most, and transparent exporter of Jihad.
Aug-11-2005 09:06
donnybrasco
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: L.A.
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
There is only one solution and that is every country that has nukes should get rid of them.Not just specific countries.
Yah, create a vacum where anyone who stows a few nukes away will suddenly become the next Super Power by default...I don't think that plan is going to work.
Whom would you rather has the controlling interest in nukes right now; The US, Russia and China....or....Iran??
"I'll take 'Anyone But Iran' for a thousand Alex".
Aug-11-2005 10:42
hardcore trancer
Mystic Mind
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada
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Originally posted by Q5echo
we send more to Egypt for "God knows what". point?
Hey it is your money that is going to waste not mine.
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yet there is proof that they have been pursuing nuke weapons ambitions well before the war. before the first gulf war as a matter of fact. point?
source?
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we're workin on it. we have 16,000 now. Russia has roughly twice that. by 2012 we have agreed to both posses around 2200. thats the trouble with your generation you have no respect for history and want everything right now
I do have respect for history and thats why I dont want those past events(aka Hiroshima).to repeat itself now or in the future.
Originally posted by Q5echo
when it comes to Iran, yeah, thats a lot of it. we're not coming to the aid of anybody except people that are unable to take care of themselves for the moment.
in Irans case who are you talking about?almost all of Iran neighbors have American troops in them.So I dont see how they are unable to to defend themselves.
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we don't talk to Iran. we haven't (officially) since 1982. trust me, Israel can take care of themselves and would only do so in defence. this is what i was talking about earlier. it's almost paradoxical the way things set themselves up for inevitable peace when you dealing with nukes. it's in everyones nature to live and not die.
Lets say you live in Iran right now wouldnt you fear of getting attacked?having Americans surrounding you and keep threatening you all the time?
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but this time it's different. we're talking about Iran and i hope that we are all in agreement Iran is the single most, and transparent exporter of Jihad.
and where do you get that from? Saudi Arabia exports lots of Jihadis,Pakistan exports lots of Jihadis,Egypt exports lots of Jihadis.So why pick on Iran when you have all these other countries that dont the same if not worst?
this is a very thorough and reliable site with literally hundreds of substantiated and coroberated insight.
http://www.carnegieendowment.org/npp/country/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1000089
Aug-11-2005 23:46
LazFX
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle
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Originally posted by Cyrus King
I am very against this regime making bombs. those leaders are ******s that need their balls knawed off by crows.. but you speak as if certain countries should make them becuase they deserve the privilege of it.. which in the end.. only produces more potential mass death
OMG I am about to die over here, I cannot believe that something intelligent has came out of your mouth. Am I dreaming????
Aug-15-2005 06:14
hardcore trancer
Mystic Mind
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada
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Originally posted by LazFX
OMG I am about to die over here, I cannot believe that something intelligent has came out of your mouth. Am I dreaming????
Last edited by hardcore trancer on Aug-15-2005 at 21:16
Aug-15-2005 09:32
LazFX
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LazFX
OMG I am about to die over here, I cannot believe that something intelligent has came out of your mouth. Am I dreaming???? [/QUO
No you are not dreaming but you are an idiot.
and you are????? Oh yeah... no one of importance but I guess you know that by now, cause you probrobly heard that all your life..
Aug-15-2005 09:53
Cyrus King
Anti NeoCon Addict
Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto
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Originally posted by LazFX
OMG I am about to die over here, I cannot believe that something intelligent has came out of your mouth. Am I dreaming????
Those mullahs need to die just like those terrorists that reside in the Israeli Knesset.
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