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Zharen
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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
oh gawd, you're missing one of the biggest ones ever.

The Cuban Missle Crisis!!


That's the first thing I thought of when reading this topic too. Not that I lived during those times, but hearing accounts from my history professor attending "End of the World" parties certainly stood out in my mind during his lectures.

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GRinLoCK
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quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
Probably in the days of Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon man. Like all animals we would have been pretty much in a constant "fight or flight" mode. Nature is a scary, dangerous, and unpredictable place. Everyday life would have been relatively more frightening for all, you would think. As opposed to you sitting in a chair in your cozy home on a padded chair and saying today is "hella" pretty scary, for example.

I disagree tith the above observation. Those days were cozy compared to nowadays. We had plenty of big Animals to hunt down and eat. No Private Property... The so called "primitive communism". People Were Happy back then. When the big Mammals Died off is when our world became the shit it is.... everyone fighting for resources!!!! On the other Hand its had some favorable repercussions the fast advancement of technology, the arts etc...

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GRinLoCK
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quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
Take your pick:

Those are some damn good suggestions!!!!

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metalgearsolid
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A really frightening period is right now with terrorists and the chances of them having a nuke. So they can prolly bring it in a suitcase and blow up the city of Chicago. Killing over a million people once the bomb goes off.

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GRinLoCK
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quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
A really frightening period is right now with terrorists and the chances of them having a nuke. So they can prolly bring it in a suitcase and blow up the city of Chicago. Killing over a million people once the bomb goes off.



Why Chicago?

Why not Memphis?

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TheNobleEu
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Filling in some blanks from ogvh5150's post:

Ancient:
Reign of Senusret III of Egypt, c. 1878-1841 BCE
Reign of Thutmose III of Egypt, c. 1479-1426 BCE
Reign of Tiglath-Pileser I of Assyria, c. 1115-1077 BCE
Reign of Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria, c. 744–727 BCE
Reign of Sargon II of Assyria, c. 721-705 BCE
Reign of Sennacherib of Assyria, c. 705–681 BCE

Plague in Athens, Peloponnesian War, 431-404 BCE
Linking of the Walls erected during the Warring States by Qin Shihuangdi (Great Wall of China), 221-206 BCE


Medieval:
Birth of Constantine, 324 CE (j/k)
Crusades, 1195-1270
Hundred Years War, 1337-1451


Modern:
Armenian Genocide, 1915-17
Spanish Flu Pandemic, 1918
(Great Depression, 1929-39)
Operation Barbarossa, WWII Eastern Front, 1941-45
Battle of Stalingrad, 1942-43
(India-Pakistan contention over Kashmir, 1947-48-present)
Sri-Lanka, 1983-present
Chechnya, (1818) 1991-present
AIDS Pandemic, c. 1977-present
Chernobyl, 1986
Total chaos in Russia as the aftermath of Fall of Soviet Communism, 1991

(more on this later)


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ogvh5150
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quote:
Originally posted by GRinLoCK
Those are some damn good suggestions!!!!


Thanks I hope they are of good use.

quote:
Originally posted by TheNobleEu
Filling in some blanks from ogvh5150's post


I have numbers of casualties listed. You deferred them either because the sources did or copy and paste didn't work too good.

Just an observation.


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I have numbers of casualties listed. You deferred them either because the sources did or copy and paste didn't work too good.

Just an observation.


Your sentence makes no sense (improper contextual use of the verb "to defer") so I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Let me know what you're trying to observe.

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metalgearsolid
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quote:
Originally posted by GRinLoCK
Why Chicago?

Why not Memphis?


Eso es como diciendo porque no Puerto VAllarta y no la cuidad de Mexico D.F.

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Originally posted by TheNobleEu
Your sentence makes no sense (improper contextual use of the verb "to defer") so I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Let me know what you're trying to observe.

-N


Numbers or STFU.

JK

Get some numbers in there.


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TheNobleEu
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Originally posted by ogvh5150
Numbers or STFU.

JK

Get some numbers in there.


Oh -- you want numbers of people killed in the things I listed.

Well, some of the things I listed I did because of the suffering they caused, and not because of the "greatest numbers killed."

Also in some cases I didn't list numbers because they aren't available, or they are disputed. For example, who can say how many people were killed in antiquity by the following:

quote:

Reign of Senusret III of Egypt, c. 1878-1841 BCE
Reign of Thutmose III of Egypt, c. 1479-1426 BCE
Reign of Tiglath-Pileser I of Assyria, c. 1115-1077 BCE
Reign of Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria, c. 744–727 BCE
Reign of Sargon II of Assyria, c. 721-705 BCE
Reign of Sennacherib of Assyria, c. 705–681 BCE


IIRC, we're told in Thucydides that:

quote:
Plague in Athens, Peloponnesian War, 431-404 BCE


...about a quarter of Athens' population succumbed to the plague, and its population has been estimated to be as high as 320,000.

Also:

quote:
Linking of the Walls erected during the Warring States by Qin Shihuangdi (Great Wall of China), 221-206 BCE


The First Sovereign Emperor of China claimed to have used 700,000 political prisoners, POWs and convicts to link the Great Wall. Most of these are said to have died and their bodies were used as building material to continue the construction.


quote:

Medieval:
Birth of Constantine, 324 CE (j/k)
Crusades, 1195-1270
Hundred Years War, 1337-1451


"Known only unto god."


Not really interested in bean-counting, as this wasn't my motive in posting, but:

Modern:
Armenian Genocide, 1915-17
-Estimated at 600,000 to 1.5 million.

Spanish Flu Pandemic, 1918
-Estimated at 25 to 50 million (more than all casualties caused in WWI).

Operation Barbarossa, WWII Eastern Front, 1941-45
-Millions; operation involved at least 3 million Germans, tens of millions of Russians, both civilian and military. See Battle of Stalingrad.

Battle of Stalingrad, 1942-43
-Over 1 million in this battle alone, mostly civilians.

AIDS Pandemic, c. 1977-present
-25 million in the first 25 years, and growing. Problem becoming pandemic in Southeast Asia. Already pandemic in southern Africa.

Chernobyl, 1986
-31 killed initially, 10 in later years, incalculable damage done to the area.


quote:

(Great Depression, 1929-39)
(India-Pakistan contention over Kashmir, 1947-48-present)
Sri-Lanka, 1983-present
Chechnya, (1818) 1991-present
Total chaos in Russia as the aftermath of Fall of Soviet Communism, 1991


Accurate counts of these probably not available. Listed for the suffering inflicted.

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The Mex
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Did you ever think of the time period of the inquisition?
Scare time for many people of differing religions, cultures and ethnic backgrouds.

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