I would work extra hard if a friend voluntarily got me a job, but I would not pull any strings to help a friend out, nor would I ever ask a friend to do that for me.

Based on what I've heard from the people around me and, to an even larger extent, what I read on this forum, it seems like the vast majority of people living in this city/province do not respect their jobs, their companies, or their own performance. I certainly would not want to be responsible for them getting hired and surfing TranceAddict for 8 hours a day.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker 3 things you don't do with friends (worth keeping) and family: 1) loan money 2) do business (including getting them jobs) 3) fuck (literally or otherwise)

That's some wise advise there RJ. On more than one occasion I had problems with 2); where I did some transactions for a friend, and because of misunderstandings they concluded on a sour note. After which, I still harbour some latent indignation.

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You always gotta keep your friends and job separate I think. Making friends with someone at work is different, because you had nothing to do with them getting the job.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess ...should one do this or should one not do this? Let us know some stories of good and bad. If a friend gets you a job are you going to work extra hard to prove yourself and your friend?

do you? I think it all depends on the person you are getting the job for and the company you work for.

I know with my company, if I got someone a job.. it wouldn't really make me look bad if things didn't work out with that person.. only because the likelihood of me working in the same branch would be slim and people come and go in my business all the time as well.

But if you do get a friend a job.. I think that person should do everything in their power to do good and represent that other person for having you hired..

I have personally never gotten anyone a job... would I? I don't really know to be honest!

To go along with RJ's post.. isn't the saying.. "never mix business with pleasure"??? pleasure/friendships/family.. it really is all the same.

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Judging if you should get your friend a good job is a good way to practice for future managerial positions...


if your friend works out, then great you are good at reading people... if not.. well work on it..


obviously don't get every friend who wants a job, a job.. but screen em...


if you think telling your friend "no i wont get you a job" is hard, try telling a man with like 3 kids a pregnant wife & no money to live he's fired...

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I got my current job from a friend slash ex-coworker putting in a good recommendation to the boss, etc. I'm certainly qualified for the position, but had I not gotten his recommendation I would most likely be just another resume in the pile.

I feel quite strongly that life is all about the relationships you make and maintain. I've seen time and time again it's not necessarily what you know, but who you know that gets you ahead in many areas of life. Yes granted what you know is *very* important, but also knowing the right people can give you the needed edge to succeed.

So I say if your friend is qualified and you know s/he will do a good job, then yes by all means recommend that person. But also keep in mind the harder you try to get someone in, the worse it looks if that person does a horrible job. You have to ultimately make your own judgment calls, otherwise you do both yourself and your friend a disservice.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker 3 things you don't do with friends (worth keeping) and family: 1) loan money 2) do business (including getting them jobs) 3) fuck (literally or otherwise)

RJ, this is exactly what i beleive in! My dad always mentioned #1, and 2..those fuck up friendships, and I've seen it first hand.

if my friend is a good worker and trustworthy..I would totally help them get a job....


and if they fuck it up...then that is their own problem. I dont think I would work extra hard to prove myself.

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I have done it before with mixed results.

One time, I recommended a friend from high school to work but he complained, was late all the time, and whined to the point where they had to fire him - making me look like an ass.

Another time, I recommended a friend and they're still with that company while I moved on to other things. It was a perfect match.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker 3 things you don't do with friends (worth keeping) and family: 1) loan money 2) do business (including getting them jobs) 3) fuck (literally or otherwise)

I agree 100% - unfortunately, 1) has been my hardest point to enforce with friends. MONEY IS EVIL!!!

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it really is a shame because it is quite difficult to get jobs without any recommendation from anyone.

most of the people on TA are in the "fend for yourself" frame of mind and this is only based on bad experiences they have had in the past.

work ethic is difficult to learn later on, it has to be learned when you are young.