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Originally posted by donnybrasco Most Americans kind of view Canada as a de-facto extended part of our country anyways. In the same kind of way we see the Southern part of the U.S.; Full of red-necks...but they're OUR red-necks.

buggar off you yank twat!

swilly

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Most Americans kind of view Canada as a de-facto extended part of our country anyways. In the same kind of way we see the Southern part of the U.S.; Full of red-necks...but they're OUR red-necks.

The funny thing is not this, but the fact that Canadian youth is pretty much Americanized - they listen and enjoy American music and lifestyle, watch NFL instead of CFL. Thats just one example. Its not that Americans consider Canada to be "America Junior", but the new generation of Canadians look up to Americanism.

Oh, and American government is very selfish and unfair - they want Canadian lumber, yet put on it heavy duties that have already accounted for 5 billion bucks since 2002. NAFTA, which Americans helped form, now rules that the tariffs are illegal, yet the greedy US government will never give back or stop the illegal tariffs. I've never seen such a selfish government, that cant even abide by its own rules. When it wants something, like cheap labour in Mexico, they make NAFTA. Then when they want to "protect" their own lumber companies they make tariffs - which do not discourage or decrease the amount of lumber going into the states - but it is a smart way to earn some money for something they shouldn't. Why should Canada then abide by NAFTA and provide 60% of US electrivity WITHOUT tariffs? Anyhow ...

American people are very nice, I just friggin hate their government.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Its not that Americans consider Canada to be "America Junior", but the new generation of Canadians look up to Americanism.

Can you produce an example?

I can't think of a single thing that would make a Canadian "look up" to anything American, since our young people currently have a very popular anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-establishment, generalist anti-American culture. 'It's cool to hate the USA,' at the moment -- it has spawned a whole genre of political commentary books over the last several years, many of which are aimed at young people.

And listening to "American music" isn't an example (since there is no such thing -- feel free to attempt to define this if you disagree), so it is much more appropriate to talk about "common elements of Western culture" then try to pass off "TV" or "internet" or "music" as a piece of exclusive "Americanism."

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Why should Canada then abide by NAFTA and provide 60% of US electrivity WITHOUT tariffs? Anyhow ...

They won't, tariffs on our side are already being discussed.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium American people are very nice, I just friggin hate their government.[/COLOR]

I agree, but recall also who's essentially supporting said government.

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Originally posted by TheNobleEu I agree, but recall also who's essentially supporting said government. -N

Not all Americans are nice just like a week ago this Italian guy hit my car and then tried to blame me. He threatened me so many times it just pissed me off, but I couldn't hit him. He was an oldie trying to act yound again.

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Originally posted by TheNobleEu Can you produce an example? I can't think of a single thing that would make a Canadian "look up" to anything American, since our young people currently have a very popular anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-establishment, generalist anti-American culture. 'It's cool to hate the USA,' at the moment -- it has spawned a whole genre of political commentary books over the last several years, many of which are aimed at young people. And listening to "American music" isn't an example (since there is no such thing -- feel free to attempt to define this if you disagree), so it is much more appropriate to talk about "common elements of Western culture" then try to pass off "TV" or "internet" or "music" as a piece of exclusive "Americanism." They won't, tariffs on our side are already being discussed. I agree, but recall also who's essentially supporting said government. -N

Haha /// most young people nowadays here in Canada dont know much about the war in Iraq. Of course, sure, they dislike Bush, but hey - there's gotta be a bad guy somewhere, right? Even here in Canada, there are "bad guys" in government that people like to diss ... They watch TV or read newspapers and most of us Canadians want peace, so yes thats a reason to diss Bush. However, only few people know the detailed truth about the horrific secrets of Bush presidency (like the World Trade Center coverup). Canadian youth acts a lot like the American youth nowadays - drugs, gang/hip-hop culture, EVEN slang - much clearer examples than the above mentioned by me. I heard countless times people my age (21) make fun of Canadian military and scoffing at Canadian music. Of course, they are not the majority, but a large group anyhow.

As for lumber dispute - tariffs are being "discussed" "on OUR side" - like that's going to change something (who is going to listen to Canada?), and Americans, the big bully, refuse to accept NAFTA's ruling or to pay back the 5 billion in tariffs they illegally collected since 2002. End of that discussion. Who's going to force Americans to change their mind and HOW? Americans are almighty. If USA can invade Iraq with no proof and unpunished, then those tariffs are NOTHING compared to the war in Iraq!!!

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As a matter of a fact, a lot of people criticize their governments in one way or another. And the only countries that dont have this problem are the ones who make up the top 3 or so countries on the world, according to some World organization, whatever its name was (I forgot). These are Norway, Finland, Denmark, Australia ... Canada was 5th I think.

Picture this: Canada has one of the world's BEST health care systems, so much money goes into it, and yet Canadians criticiize it SEVERELY. Isn't that stupid? I wish we had the Canadian health care system in Russia !

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Picture this: Canada has one of the world's BEST health care systems, so much money goes into it, and yet Canadians criticiize it SEVERELY. Isn't that stupid? I wish we had the Canadian health care system in Russia !

How is it like in Russia?

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid How is it like in Russia?

Its getting better, but much behind Canada when it comes to accomodating everyone, and there are scarse funds available. Right now with the Russian economy on the rise, and with the eventual elimination of debt to western countries (which will be completed by 2020) Russia will soon be back to its 1980s levels.

EVEN Americans wish they had the Canadian health care system.

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So do you intend on leaving Canada and moving back to Russia? I mean I wouldn't do that no offense but Russia still has a lot of problems compared to canada.

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Originally posted by swilly buggar off you yank twat! swilly

Can't we all get along?















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Originally posted by metalgearsolid So do you intend on leaving Canada and moving back to Russia? I mean I wouldn't do that no offense but Russia still has a lot of problems compared to canada.

It's interesting that you asked me question. I am really curious as to what made you ask it, because I didnt say anything about that in my prev. posts. I have been thinking about moving back to Russia, actually. Several main reasons, actually.

Why? Well ... here are some of the reasons:

I like the moral values there much better.
A lot of kids my age here in Canada are very immature and under-educated, a big chunk of them are involved in "bad" activities, such as drugs, alcohol, gangs and other things. Additionally, Canadian youth tends to like: TV/reality show (example: survivor, american idol), mainstream music, (violent) video games, drugs, alcohol, etc.

I like: science, astronomy, history, environment; I read a lot about the world and I am conscious of the situation. I hate television and all that reality show crap, commercials and corporation-laced propaganda and bullshit. Even news on TV are basically corporation-filtered and selected information (news are run by PROFIT-business companies.). I like factual things - I dont read fantasy books or other similar material, for example.

I can go for a long time, but I dont want to. I guess I have issues myself. Plus right now I am not in a good mood.

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Are Russians ever in a good mood? I was just curious because Canada seems to be a nice country, but you prefer the news that it is run by the government like in Russia? Right because they never select information that they want to be known by the people and not to be known by the people. Seems to me like you hate western lifestlye, but don't most Russians want to be more like the west. I don't know I have never been to Russia, but it seems to me like you are another Arbiter.

Anyways I am into history it is one of the several reasons as to why I want to go to Russia so badly. One thing I love most about Russia is ballot it is so beautiful and amazing to know that a Russian could have actually created something like that. Well you know most countries never had a favorable opinion of Russia and Russians. Something about them not being western maybe you could clear that up for me.

But I don't think you are going to reply for a while if ever. That is ok I am used to being ignored.