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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike it's a blatent rip off of PvD - Connected anyway.

i agree
[sarcasim]i hope some one does a re hash of Another Way[/sarcasim]

oh dear gerry, you sound so bitter.

remix credits dont usually appear on compilation covers. do you ever see a remix credit on the back of a GU mix CD? no. And do you see any of those producers going round message boards whinging that they havent got credit? No. Look inside the sleeve.

Anyway, maybe you would get more sympathy from people that arent idiots if your 'cover' of messages wasnt a total rip off of PvD's own track Connected in the first place. I mean, it is exactly the same in every way isnt it? apart from the melody of course, but then thats from the solange record.

So what you have effectively done here is take the melody from one record & pasted it onto the structure of another, and then go on to complain that you arent getting the credit that you deserve.

such a shame.

Whats clear from your outburst is that you are only really in the trance 'game' to become famous. Well someone ought to tell you that there is no possibility of that anymore, so you might as well quit now.

Last edited by Dave Clarke on Aug-29-2005 at 17:42

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Originally posted by Dave Clarke oh dear gerry, you sound so bitter. remix credits dont usually appear on compilation covers. do you ever see a remix credit on the back of a GU mix CD? no. And do you see any of those producers going round message boards whinging that they havent got credit? No. Look inside the sleeve. Anyway, maybe you would get more sympathy from people that arent idiots if your 'cover' of messages wasnt a total rip off of PvD's own track Connected in the first place. I mean, it is exactly the same in every way isnt it? apart from the melody of course, but then thats from the solange record. So what you have effectively done here is take the melody from one record & pasted it onto the structure of another, and then go on to complain that you arent getting the credit that you deserve. such a shame. Whats clear from your outburst is that you are only really in the trance 'game' to become famous. Well someone ought to tell you that there is no possibility of that anymore, so you might as well quit now.

eyyy look whos on TA

I have to defend Gerry on this one.

First off I don't know about the GU albums but pretty much every album I've bought DOES credit the remixers. It doesn't make sense not to, the remixers deserve just as much credit as the original artist IMO. Sure maybe Gerry seems a bit bitter about it, and maybe he shouldn't be concerned with it that much. But it would have been REALLY good for him to get his name on this album. He can tell promoters that he has one of his tracks on TPOD2 but he'll have to explain the whole story of why when they look at the tracklist they won't see his name. Having his name on the album would have gaven him a big step up in competition for getting gigs (assuming he DJs) and that is what is what many of us up-and-comers really want.

It doesn't matter that it was a cover or that the melody was similar to another track, Gerry has a lot of original material but this one happens to be the track that PvD wanted to sign and put on his album (subconcious egotism maybe ). It's just the right thing to do to credit the people involved with the tracks on the tracklist.

Dave Clarke: you've made it as a producer and DJ so it's pretty easy for you to criticize nobodies looking for a little recocnition for there work. That's bullshit man, today the industry is much more competitive than it was when you were emerging. People have to work a lot harder to get their name out there and it's not shameful to want credit for your work on big albums such as TPOD2.

PvD is credited for mixing the album I don't see why he thinks he is the actual remixer of all the tracks. I think PvD could use a lesson or two in the real politics of the industry.

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Originally posted by djmetatron I have to defend Gerry on this one. First off I don't know about the GU albums but pretty much every album I've bought DOES credit the remixers. It doesn't make sense not to, the remixers deserve just as much credit as the original artist IMO. Sure maybe Gerry seems a bit bitter about it, and maybe he shouldn't be concerned with it that much. But it would have been REALLY good for him to get his name on this album. He can tell promoters that he has one of his tracks on TPOD2 but he'll have to explain the whole story of why when they look at the tracklist they won't see his name. Having his name on the album would have gaven him a big step up in competition for getting gigs (assuming he DJs) and that is what is what many of us up-and-comers really want. It doesn't matter that it was a cover or that the melody was similar to another track, Gerry has a lot of original material but this one happens to be the track that PvD wanted to sign and put on his album (subconcious egotism maybe ). It's just the right thing to do to credit the people involved with the tracks on the tracklist. Dave Clarke: you've made it as a producer and DJ so it's pretty easy for you to criticize nobodies looking for a little recocnition for there work. That's bullshit man, today the industry is much more competitive than it was when you were emerging. People have to work a lot harder to get their name out there and it's not shameful to want credit for your work on big albums such as TPOD2. PvD is credited for mixing the album I don't see why he thinks he is the actual remixer of all the tracks. I think PvD could use a lesson or two in the real politics of the industry.

Id assume that the labels allowed him to do that, so blame them...

And i dont think anyone has seen the sleeve, unless the promo's have them... I dont remember what tpod 1 had in it though.

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Originally posted by djmetatron Dave Clarke: you've made it as a producer and DJ so it's pretty easy for you to criticize nobodies looking for a little recocnition for there work. That's bullshit man, today the industry is much more competitive than it was when you were emerging. People have to work a lot harder to get their name out there and it's not shameful to want credit for your work on big albums such as TPOD2.

Uh, that's not the Dave Clarke.

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Originally posted by Cobalt Uh, that's not the Dave Clarke.

really? well that's f//cking annoying.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 Id assume that the labels allowed him to do that, so blame them... And i dont think anyone has seen the sleeve, unless the promo's have them... I dont remember what tpod 1 had in it though.

I was going to say...

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 I dont remember what tpod 1 had in it though.

It certainly didn't feature the remix names on the back ... you would have thought Gerry would have known that beforehand instead of having a bitch at PvD for a matter out of his hands.

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But it would have been REALLY good for him to get his name on this album. He can tell promoters that he has one of his tracks on TPOD2 but he'll have to explain the whole story of why when they look at the tracklist they won't see his name. Having his name on the album would have gaven him a big step up in competition for getting gigs (assuming he DJs) and that is what is what many of us up-and-comers really want.

Well if thats what he really wants then he should fuck right off. He should be happy that something he was involved in got put on a CD like this, not go around bitching on internet messageboards because it hasnt got his name on it.

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Originally posted by Dave Clarke Well if thats what he really wants then he should fuck right off. He should be happy that something he was involved in got put on a CD like this, not go around bitching on internet messageboards because it hasnt got his name on it.

in fairness i wouldn't call it outright agressive bitching

and are you the 'davidclarke' who got banned here last year for trolling & spouting copious amounts of tripe?