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Originally posted by pvdalltheway allrite....u guys win!....ill stick to my xone 62...it is the club standard after all and has a good rep...won techno scan awards in 2002 and 2003....i guess i was being too greedy just cuz i got a little bit of cash to spend...but u guys r rite..and im thankful to all of u for helping me make the rite decision i will buy some speakers with an amp and set it up in my room thanks a million .. all of u!

club standard is a xone 62?? all our clubs have pioneers

I only ever mix in the headphones at home, don't have my monitors turend on.

This is mainly because my next door neighbour gets pretty heafty migraines so it's a bit unfair to crank the sound up. I can monitor the master channel through my headphones on my mixer (as you can on most other mixers, certainly the most common pro mixers) so I just do that mid-mix, quite often switching back to individual channels as necessary...

Good skill to have if you end up in a club with shite monitors, I actually tend to find it easier in the headphones anyway but usually find myself varying whether I use the monitors or not from mix to mix.

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Originally posted by DJ_Hailstone I think I would buy the Xone92. The reason is because Xone92 has some advantages, as many people said here on forum. For example the MIDI functions + on Xone62 you cant hear the EQ when using headphones. You can exchange your Xone62 to 92 in your shop (+pay the price difference)? If yes, you can buy speakers later but the ability to exchange your mixer you have only now. + You will have the best mixer on the planet atm, so you will not have to upgrade your mixer for a very long time! Thats my op

Dumbest decision ever. How are you gonna mix without speakers? Your equipment is just gonna be sitting on a desk looking pretty until than. Also, hes just a BEGINNER - why in gods name would he get that mixer.

And zizack, I started out with a Xone:62. Im gonna be getting in some loan money some time soon, so Im gonna, finally, get myself a pair of Event monitors. As well as a new pair of phones, probably Tech RP-DJ1200A.

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox I only ever mix in the headphones at home, don't have my monitors turend on. This is mainly because my next door neighbour gets pretty heafty migraines so it's a bit unfair to crank the sound up. I can monitor the master channel through my headphones on my mixer (as you can on most other mixers, certainly the most common pro mixers) so I just do that mid-mix, quite often switching back to individual channels as necessary... Good skill to have if you end up in a club with shite monitors, I actually tend to find it easier in the headphones anyway but usually find myself varying whether I use the monitors or not from mix to mix.

Thats true, but even with shite monitors you cant solely rely on mixing in the headphones because there is a delay between your headphones and the master out speakers.

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

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Originally posted by Vlad Dumbest decision ever. How are you gonna mix without speakers? Your equipment is just gonna be sitting on a desk looking pretty until than. Also, hes just a BEGINNER - why in gods name would he get that mixer. And zizack, I started out with a Xone:62. Im gonna be getting in some loan money some time soon, so Im gonna, finally, get myself a pair of Event monitors. As well as a new pair of phones, probably Tech RP-DJ1200A.

nice. I had a Xone 62 for a day and freaked out when I couldn't hear eq changes in the headphones so I took it back and got a DJM600. Last year I upgraded to the 92 and love it, and since then I have played out on the 62 a couple of times and realize I was stupid for returning it right away.

The Events are ridic too. I was deciding between those and the top of the line KRK's which I ended up getting and love.

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Originally posted by Nikolas Vaughn Yes...we win

no he wins, we just wish and envy....

I ordered the JBL speakers with an amp.....the guy in the store said itll come wednesday...so im gonna go rite after school to pick em up. The xone 62 is more than enough for me since i live in a house and mostly will b practicing in the bedroom. and thres no point in getting xone 92 unless i hav speakers to use it on...mite as well stick to something like behringer if i only use headphones...i think i made the rite choice by getting a well built mixer (even if its not the best..(no one needs the best mixer on the planet to b a good dj). Personally, i dont think i should even start with the xone 62..prbly should start with a vestax pcv 275 or smthng...but anyways..im quite happy with the 62 model and the speakers will help me out alot and shuold suond pretty decent with the mixer. Ill let u guys know how it goes in a few days

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Originally posted by Vlad Thats true, but even with shite monitors you cant solely rely on mixing in the headphones because there is a delay between your headphones and the master out speakers.

Yes you can, just stick both ears on and as long as you've got a reasonable pair of headphones it'll block out enough external sound for you to hear what you're doing.

You will still feel a slight delayed bass thud, but you get that with monitors anyway

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Yes you can, just stick both ears on and as long as you've got a reasonable pair of headphones it'll block out enough external sound for you to hear what you're doing. You will still feel a slight delayed bass thud, but you get that with monitors anyway

Well thats something you cant do on the Xone. The Master nor the Channel Fader nor the Crossfader affect the volume in the headphones, so you cant hear what youre doing. The only thing that you can hear in the headphones is when you raise or lower the gains.

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

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Originally posted by Vlad Well thats something you cant do on the Xone. The Master nor the Channel Fader nor the Crossfader affect the volume in the headphones, so you cant hear what youre doing. The only thing that you can hear in the headphones is when you raise or lower the gains.

On a Xone 62:
Press the Aux button in the top right and corner or the mixer, turn the Aux X-fade knob (the one above the pan control) to 0 (3 o'clock), make sure all the cue buttons are off and all of the aux levels (above each channel) are at 0... and voila - you can hear the master channel (without mic channels I think) in your headphones. Quite long-winded I know! But it does the job.

On a Xone 92 I think you can just turn the Cue/Add Mix knob (on the right hand side, just above the h/p volume knob) round to Add Mix and that'll do the trick.

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Originally posted by Vlad Dumbest decision ever. How are you gonna mix without speakers? Your equipment is just gonna be sitting on a desk looking pretty until than. Also, hes just a BEGINNER - why in gods name would he get that mixer.

I think you dont understand my point.
If I would in his place, I would buy X92 + some shitty cheap monitors.
And why getting X92 over X62?
Because some people here on TA said that X62 isnt very good mixer. Wasnt it zizack who posted a thread about the x62 mixer?
For example you cant hear the EQ changes on headphones etc.
I dont think he need the best mixer as a beginner, but maybe he decide to upgrade x62 to x92 in the future and it will be much more expensive to do that after 2 years than now.

EDIT: Found the thread about the X62 I was talking about
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&highlight=xone

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