noobies pay cover w/ out asking questions.
i wish montreal had some of those.

Elie that basically sums up what I thought of toronto and the guv...but i had no first hand experience. SO ya thnx and what were ppl on there? just drunk or sober? do they even have substances in TO

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Originally posted by elie Where has the scene in Toronto gone?

To Boa.

E N D T R A N S M I S S I O N

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We were all pretty experienced partiers so we all kind of went off on our own alot of the night, you guys understand. So the running joke was to gather together every so often and make fun of things we saw ... at one point, we all got together and said at the same time ... "ok, now they are all getting drunk". So there was alot of bumping into people and stuff, this made it easier to get from room to room.
The thing about Toronto is that they have no speed. They dont know what it is, so befor like 3 or 4, everyone is SO worried about looking like they are on something thats why no one really dances at those times. Meanwhile I am DANCING MY ASS OFF because B&J are killing me with the hardest beats I have ever heard and they are looking at me "that guy must be on drugs". I was a ltitle insulted when my love for the set became 'me being on drugs'.

After 4, everyone in the room became e-tarded. But still not smiling, I didn't get it.

Moment #1: I was walking through one of the rooms with a stereo t-shirt on and these 2 girls run up to me screaming "OMG WE KNOW THE PLACE STEREO, YOU KNOW IT???!?!" I walked right through them saying "never heard of the place..." it was a funny moment.

Thank god we didnt pay to get in (THANK YOU DEMI)
Even demi after his set came up to me and my friends with a "this is a very motivating crowd" in total sarcasme.

PS: Boa closed. Does that mean the scene is dead!?

THANK GOD FOR STEREO TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL FINALLY FEEL BACK HOME....!

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That such a sad story...I'm glad I was underage a decided to stay for Schulz and Digger. I pity TO

scene in t.o died after Industry closed.

i don't even consider Boa, cuz they were in Buisness for 1.5 year.

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Originally posted by elie PS: Boa closed. Does that mean the scene is dead!?

Boa is moving...Will re-open in probably 2 weeks. And the thing you have to understand about the toronto scene is it's history:

mid-late 90's, was a thriving scene, industry was one of the best clubs in the world, a house haven, Toronto had 10,000 people massives virtually every month, and the second best drum and bass scene in the world [next to london].

Government banned raves. Killed the massives. Industry was bought out by Scotiabank, and lost it's space, and shut down. [Danny Tenaglia threw the closing party, and still claims it as one of the best nights he's ever had, and I agree with him]. The only major club that kept it's doors open and played dance music during this period was the guvernment. It became overcrowded, the talent coming in the door was less than what was expected [the owner was trying to squeeze as much out of the fan base as possible], and a lot of the old skoolers quit the scene. Charles [the guv owner] used this time to gain a stranglehold on all of the Dance music events running in toronto.

Boa opened. Modelled after Stereo and Aria, it's a place where you can see up and coming DJs as well as great house DJs in a purely afterhours environment. Drawing in the older crowd who's gotten sick of putting up with the guvernment's bullshit, it's quickly become 'the place' for a good vibe, good house music, and room to dance. Now that Boa opened, it's lead to an increased popularity in dance music in Toronto, and with the guvernment's reputation of being 'the premier club', all the noobs go there to hear their ferry's, their oakenfolds, their digweeds, and their sashas, leading to the worst crowding of that venue yet.

So all in all :
if you want quality partying in toronto, avoid the guv.

guv parties are crowded due to a) greedy ownership and b) the inability to throw massives in toronto due to stupid by-laws

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Originally posted by elie Ok, so I I may get grilled for this but this is my take on things. I was at Labor of Love and me and my fellow Montrealers ran out of there screaming NEVER AGAIN TORONTO. I can almost garentee it being the worst event I have ever attended. It was beyond packed, there was a point in the night when me and my friend were sitting in a stall, she was crying because there was no escape from the people, the heat. THe venue was huge, but WAKKKK! I did not understand the concept of putting 5 clubs together but to get from one to another, it was left, right, up , right, down the stairs, around the corner and there you go you are in the house room. And all the hallways and stairways were ONE WAY so to get back where you previously just were, you had to do the whole circle all the way around. The people: I cannot beleive such a crowd of unhappy, sour, annal people could exist. Maybe it's cause I am from Montreal and everyone here is so fucking nice and happy and receptive to smiles or anything of the sort, but I was actually scared at one point to look people in the eyes because NO ONE WOULD RESPOND TO EVEN A SIMPLE SMILE! The only people I talked to all night were other Montrealers who were also having the worst night of their lives. Where has the scene in Toronto gone? I refuse to say this is the scene in Toronto because this is the only event I have attended there, but to hear people say this was INSANE, or THE BEST LOL EVER, makes me confused. I have attended CElebration, Bal, Swirl for the past 2 or 3 years and they compare IN NO WAY to LOL2005. ANYWAYS, I think I am now just ranting about my evening and how it was actually possible for something like that to exist. THANK GOD FOR THE MUSIC. Blank & Jones played and Armin played the best 6 hours of music I have ever heard, it was amazing, incredible ... too bad the only people I had to share it with were the band of sour apples surrounding me. I would scream "Great SOng!" they would look back at me with disgust, WTF??? Oh yea, what is with the camera's ?? Everyone had camera's and were snapping pictures... I weas actually asked suring the Armin set to move out of the way so someone could get a good picture.

Sorry to hear that you had such a shitty time...

This was my first LoL as well and I knew what to expect with the crowd... you do get quite a few of the crowd that aren't there for the music at all.. it is cuz they heard Deep Dish on z103 or something crazy like that..
But you should be glad everything was one way.. have you ever been to that club when it isn't.. when there is no structure on how to get around?? Trying shoving approximately 10,000 people in that venue and not having it set up that way.. I will tell you from experience it is hell People are pushy and you aren't able to move anywhere!! So I can understand your frustration with that but seriously.. be thankful or you never would have gotten to any room or to see any dj you wanted too.

Although to classify all of us as "a crowd of unhappy, sour, annal people".. I think that is a little extreme! Because I know several of us there who weren't.. but hey.. it is your opinion and you had a shitty time. I know I have been to SEVERAL venues in different places and you get that crowd everywhere.. not just hear in Toronto. It is really unfortunate though, cuz people don't just go to these events for the music anymore.

As for the cameras.. What is wrong with that??I don't like the fact that when I come to Montreal I CAN'T bring a camera.. it is called getting pictures of your friends, dj's, the moments and all the memories of the night. When you are trying to take a picture out of the street or wherever and you stop the traffic from walking infront of your camera so you can capture that moment or take the pic, don't you think those people you stopped may have been annoyed? maybe you slowed them down by 2 seconds and they were in a rush and pissy about it.. but aren't you glad you still have that photo for the memory??

Just so that you know.. if you were in Kool Haus.. you should have been off to the side a little up near the front.. cuz there was space to move and no one in your way or anything...front and centre in that venue was brutal... You would have been MUCH happier off to the side alittle, I can almost guarantee it.

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i don' need history lesson , since i used to live there from 97-2001 and been to all slam saturdays in Industry, the time Luke Fair was a bossboy over there.

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Originally posted by 2deep i don' need history lesson , since i used to live there from 97-2001 and been to all slam saturdays in Industry, the time Luke Fair was a bossboy over there.

he still should be one IMO.

Luke Fair sux [as a DJ]

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Originally posted by elie The thing about Toronto is that they have no speed. They dont know what it is, so befor like 3 or 4, everyone is SO worried about looking like they are on something thats why no one really dances at those times. Meanwhile I am DANCING MY ASS OFF because B&J are killing me with the hardest beats I have ever heard and they are looking at me "that guy must be on drugs". I was a ltitle insulted when my love for the set became 'me being on drugs'. After 4, everyone in the room became e-tarded. But still not smiling, I didn't get it.

OK.. now I know you really WERE in the wrong place!!!

I danced for 12 hours straight with no breaks/sitting time.
We were off to the side dancing our asses off soooo hard!! We looked like we were on drugs too.. oh wait a minute.. we were
People are fools when they look at you that way... I get looks all the time... And I am sure the ones you get the looks from are the ones who aren't there for the music... that is when I get pissed off!!!

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