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Old Post Sep-26-2005 04:54  Israel
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Lepanto
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Originally posted by Aiwendil
Yeah, there is industrial rock right there. You're right, Industrial Rock is a subgenre of Rock. And there's industrial techno, EBM, Noise, and other industrial EDM. I don't think you read what I typed correctly. Industrial is a sound that describes a number of subgenres within EDM and Rock music.


i have no idea what it is you're pointing to or if you even read and not skimmed through the history of industrial. But there's no industrial rock, maybe you're refering to industrial metal? lol. Also, industrial started as a fusion of old school synths and punk. Do you remmember what older synths were? without MIDI? Not really electronica just yet dude.


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Old Post Sep-26-2005 11:49  United States
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This is why I don't like classification, it really helps one find stuff when the categories are well established but when the borders of these styles are harder to find people argue over definitions and the terms used for the categories get quite useless. I can kinda notice how EBM might be a goa precursor though, the synths and stuff between the kickdrums sound somewhat goaish. I dont really care what the category is called I just want to know what section of the bloody music shop that I need to look in to find this certain sound. The heavy beats and hypnotic yet kinda evil sounding synth lines are quite energetic.

I have also heard the term "futurepop" before, mainly referring to apoptygma berzerk, who I've been enjoying since audiogalaxy still worked. I actually saw a futurepop DJ at an EDM party one time, it was great fun, I wonder why they are so uncommon, I imagine they are more easily found at different types of clubs than the ones I usually go to. I've never really been into metal and I guess the metal type places are where one has to go to find this sort of sound. I am just guessing though. It is kinda surprising that this sort of sound seems to be more associated with metal than it is with EDM, it looks alot like a "gateway genre" between the 2.

It used to be alot easier to track down interesting sounds when audiogalaxy worked, you click on one artist, and at the top of the page are links to others in the same style that people also have in their file collections. I sure wish that audiogalaxy type interface still existed somewhere just so I could find music better, it would be worth it even if the downloads were replaced by samples or something, just so one could figure out what songs people are collecting and what else one might like given that they enjoy one certain tune. Are there any sites out there that do something similar?

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quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
i have no idea what it is you're pointing to or if you even read and not skimmed through the history of industrial. But there's no industrial rock, maybe you're refering to industrial metal? lol. Also, industrial started as a fusion of old school synths and punk. Do you remmember what older synths were? without MIDI? Not really electronica just yet dude.


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Lepanto
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Originally posted by Aiwendil
Industrial rock
Industrial music

I don't have any crayons or colored blocks with me...

apparently you don't have any skills on clicking links for MUSIC websites or reading either.
next thing you're going to tell me "rock" is a style of music as well right?


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Old Post Sep-26-2005 18:49  United States
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This is what happens when kids invent sub-genres and sub-sub-genres.

Stop fucking classifing things into this and that, with a bit of this, and a bit of that, to form a bit of this. The only classification that needs to be made in electronic music is that trance and progressive suck.

The only one here who knows what he is talking about is Aiwendil. I suggest you all stop talking and read what he is typing, even if he is a **** face.

And Lepanto, you have no clue what you're talking about.

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Old Post Sep-26-2005 18:57  Canada
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DJ Intrigue
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quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
It used to be alot easier to track down interesting sounds when audiogalaxy worked, you click on one artist, and at the top of the page are links to others in the same style that people also have in their file collections. I sure wish that audiogalaxy type interface still existed somewhere just so I could find music better, it would be worth it even if the downloads were replaced by samples or something, just so one could figure out what songs people are collecting and what else one might like given that they enjoy one certain tune. Are there any sites out there that do something similar?


Read what I had posted in your other thread last week or so and that should help you out on how to find/download/buy music.


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Old Post Sep-26-2005 19:19  United States
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What you said in that thread was quite useless, you mentioned some obvious sites and said some stuff that pretty much amounted to "try harder"

I am trying to work smarter rather than work harder. AG allowed music hunting with minimal time and effort and ever since its fall nothing has arrived to replace that functionality, or if something has then nobody bothered to mention it in that thread despite me clearly asking.

There just isnt enough time in my day to scour sites for news and waste time with the trial and error approach of listening and deleting, not to mention the time required to find people on soulseek who have the files I want and waiting through the queues, I am lucky if I can even leave my network connection in long enough to get through the queues before I have to unplug the laptop and go do something else.

Some people cannot sit in front of their computer for 4 hours a day and scour the web for songs, I on the computer at work for about 8 hours a day and when I get home I get friggin sick of it, and I am not allowed to look up music while I am working because most of the sites are blocked(but I am allowed to chat on message boards)

That other thread was my attempt to figure out how other kids can manage to deal with those factors. I know that there are university students here, I know there are other kids who work 40 hours a week, yet alot of them still seem to have enough time and money to travel all over the country and accumulate massive song collections. Therefore there has to be ways to travel that require very little money, and ways to find music that require very little time. But nobody will release the friggin info.

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Lepanto
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quote:
Originally posted by Linden Flowers
This is what happens when kids invent sub-genres and sub-sub-genres.

Stop fucking classifing things into this and that, with a bit of this, and a bit of that, to form a bit of this. The only classification that needs to be made in electronic music is that trance and progressive suck.

The only one here who knows what he is talking about is Aiwendil. I suggest you all stop talking and read what he is typing, even if he is a **** face.

And Lepanto, you have no clue what you're talking about.


pansy. Yes, I have no idea what I'm talking about I guess that's why REAL links i provided were also made by people who have no idea what they're talking about.

but making a statement such as " The only classification that needs to be made in electronic music is that trance and progressive suck." make you a GENIOUS!


edit: Rammstein
Rob Zombie
Nine Inch Nails
ministry
Bile
Pig
KMFDM

also, none of these use real instruments associate with the rock gengre or the metal subgenre, moreover the industrial-metal style.


out of the radio's list only a few bands were actualy pure industrial and/or alternative industrial or something of that sort.


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Old Post Sep-26-2005 23:51  United States
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DJ Intrigue
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quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
What you said in that thread was quite useless, you mentioned some obvious sites and said some stuff that pretty much amounted to "try harder"

I am trying to work smarter rather than work harder. AG allowed music hunting with minimal time and effort and ever since its fall nothing has arrived to replace that functionality, or if something has then nobody bothered to mention it in that thread despite me clearly asking.

There just isnt enough time in my day to scour sites for news and waste time with the trial and error approach of listening and deleting, not to mention the time required to find people on soulseek who have the files I want and waiting through the queues, I am lucky if I can even leave my network connection in long enough to get through the queues before I have to unplug the laptop and go do something else.

Some people cannot sit in front of their computer for 4 hours a day and scour the web for songs, I on the computer at work for about 8 hours a day and when I get home I get friggin sick of it, and I am not allowed to look up music while I am working because most of the sites are blocked(but I am allowed to chat on message boards)

That other thread was my attempt to figure out how other kids can manage to deal with those factors. I know that there are university students here, I know there are other kids who work 40 hours a week, yet alot of them still seem to have enough time and money to travel all over the country and accumulate massive song collections. Therefore there has to be ways to travel that require very little money, and ways to find music that require very little time. But nobody will release the friggin info.


Well then, I really question your passion for EDM and the importance of music in your life. You seem to want the easy way out and for this whole entire scene and all its knowledge to come knocking on your backdoor simply because "you don't have time" and unfortunately since dance music is not mainstream in this country, chances are it is not going to find you. You must find it to a certain extent. Honestly, if I would have thought like that, I'd still be listening to hip-hop and r&b like I used to because the above is just not all that plausible. If you really want to know more, you'll find a way to go about it, even if your time is limited. Any person who is into something deeply will tell you that. I think you are just a casual music listener and unless you want to free some time to pursue your musical interests further, then that is all you'll be.

If you have other priorities, fine, I do too. I also attend college and have a job as well, but I think it really depends on how much you want it and if you are willing to take the time to explore on your own. You can call my information useless all you want, but then please quit whining because of those on this board who actually put in the time, energy, and effort to learn and gain more knowledge. If you think my post stressed working harder as opposed to smarter, then I think that is your main problem because I have never viewed my passion for music as something that is going to get in the way and cause a great deal of conflict with my other routines. Maybe that is how you feel, I don't know, but music is something fun and very special to me (hell, I'm a music marketing major), so I almost demand to expand my frame of reference in search of new and different music.

Oh well, to each their own though and with that said, you may find you will have to answer some of your own questions and really think about how you yourself need to go about finding music on your own. I gave you the internet idea, which is probably one of the best and richest ways to surround yourself in musical knowledge, but you obviously have shot that explanation down and have no attempts to even consider doing what I wrote before. You have to want it and it does seem like you truthfully want to, but since you think a person needs to spend 4 or more hours a day searching for music (which is an absurd assumtion), I don't know what else to tell you. IMO, you are turning a mountain into a molehill and making this harder than it has to be.


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