Wow I think that's the first post I've read of yours that you wrote without a thesaurus in your hand at the time.

I'm not sure Afghanistan's drugs and what not is what this topic was about.

Iran perhaps supported this attack, and what I find most interesting is it's mentioned in the article the accusation was made without much thought by the Brits because relations with Iran are so poor right now anyway, BUT it would seem Iran might still think there are "some" ok relations, otherwise they wouldn't be denying the help given to the terrorists.

I hope the world stops and thinks for a minute that there are other means to dealing with Iran than war, I don't think they really want one but some people seem to think they're "cruisin for a brusin"... Meh, we'll see I guess.

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Originally posted by Lopitrance Wow I think that's the first post I've read of yours that you wrote without a thesaurus in your hand at the time.

Yeah, I guess that I should probably tone it down in order for some of you to be better able to understand - but I'm not. I have confidence in you and don't feel like I need to dumb things down. I do realize, however, that grandiloquence isn't the best method for conveying a message to the general public. But hey, I do this for myself just as much as I do it for anyone else, and sleep inducing prose just isn't my cup of tea. I like things spicy, so that's how it's gonna be.

Anyhow, stick around and perhaps you might learn something. I know that nobody is perfect, so don't worry because I won't act like I think you're stupid or anything like that (just as long as you don't give me any more reason to.)

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Anyhow, stick around and maybe you might learn something. I know that nobody is perfect, so don't worry because I won't act like I think you're stupid or anything like that (just as long as you don't give me any more reason to.)

So I am I the only one you call a doof? This is an outrage!

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid So I am I the only one you call a doof? This is an outrage!

I'm a doof too, if it makes you feel any better. And damn it! You just quoted me before my edit.

You know TX after reading that source you provided me with Rupper Murdoch talking with that reporter I felt really really bad. I have no idea why but I seriously feel like bad. Thank you TX for making me feel like crap. I guess I now understand why ignorance is bliss.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid I guess I now understand why ignorance is bliss.

It's a Catch-22

Be ignorant and eventually find yourself enslaved, or wake up and fight a virtuous fight by lending a hand in finding a solution to the bullshit surrounding us everyday.

Ignorance is the reason why these things are allowed to go on in the first place. If people would wake up from their narcissistically-induced hazes - unscrupulous individuals would have a much harder time slithering their ways into both the appointed and unappointed recesses of our government. Our Constitutional Republic (no, we're not a democracy, Sonny boy) dependes on a well informed citizenry. It's that simple, but yet it's not - when you consider the stranglehold that's been placed on the mainstream "Liberal" media.

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That's all well and good but why is it in other countries that this extreme left, conspiracy nut stuff is still not taken seriously?

And another thing, I am not an American, but for the average joe would it not be better to be kept in the dark about the dirty dealings going on?

All countries partake in sketchy activity, as most business teachers will tell you "Nobody ever got rich by obeying the law".

Personally I rather a sneaky American government at the head of the world table, over an even sneakier and more secretive and restricting one. (IE A communist state, facist state, nazi state etc)

All that being said, I hate how the American government and media has a good portion of America convinced life isnt life in the US of A without a war going on, and lets face it, when has there not been conflict in the past 50 years in American history? (Maybe not major conflict, but military action/SERIOUS almost war-like tension).

Meh, thats my take on things...

Me thinks if the average American were to be taught more cultural diversity, there would be less obstacles in the future, however these silly wars keep happening because some of the American people simply believe that it's so far away it doesn't affect their way of life at home.

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Originally posted by Lopitrance That's all well and good but why is it in other countries that this extreme left, conspiracy nut stuff is still not taken seriously? And another thing, I am not an American, but for the average joe would it not be better to be kept in the dark about the dirty dealings going on? All countries partake in sketchy activity, as most business teachers will tell you "Nobody ever got rich by obeying the law". Personally I rather a sneaky American government at the head of the world table, over an even sneakier and more secretive and restricting one. (IE A communist state, facist state, nazi state etc) All that being said, I hate how the American government and media has a good portion of America convinced life isnt life in the US of A without a war going on, and lets face it, when has there not been conflict in the past 50 years in American history? (Maybe not major conflict, but military action/SERIOUS almost war-like tension). Meh, thats my take on things... Me thinks if the average American were to be taught more cultural diversity, there would be less obstacles in the future, however these silly wars keep happening because some of the American people simply believe that it's so far away it doesn't affect their way of life at home.

I'm not going to delve too deep into an explanation here because quite frankly I don't have the time or the patience to mount such a hurculean task. However, I should begin by first saying that what you quite ignorantly categorize as "conspiracy nut stuff" has been taken very seriously in the more distant past by those who were in the know. Also, it doesn't matter where a person lies on the ideological spectrum, whether it be extreme left or extreme right - because the truth is universal and therefore political affiliations become irrelevant.

I think that one of the main reasons why this is such a marginalized topic of conversation is because it's extremely difficult to prove the current existence of their movement with material (rather than circumstantial) evidence. Besides, anyone making reference to it is instantly labeled as a "conspiracy nutter" or some other pejorative by the unconsciously conditioned, naively unaware, and ignorantly unassuming masses (people much like yourself)

The facts behind it, however, speak loudly enough so that if you or anyone else would take a few moments out of their precious time (yes, that means you might actually have to miss an episode of your favorite sitcom) and did a little research instead of spouting ignorant generalizations about something in which you appear to be completely and absolutley oblivious to (as I'm sure you are with many other things in this world), you might actually learn some of the truths behind the matter which you so irreverently question.

The past (and some would say present) existence of the Illuminati is a fact. It was founded on May 1, 1776, by Dr. Adam Weishaupt and Adolph Von Knigge. It's been recorded in history and it was outlawed by the Bavarian government in June of 1784. A Scottish physicist (and fellow conspiracy theorist, I might add) by the name of John Robison wrote about it fifteen years later in his book Proofs of a Conspiracy Against all the Religions and Governments of Europe.

Now I'm going to cut to the chase and am going to post some links. I'm hoping that you're not actually content using mindless clichés for a subject in which you're apparently quite ignorant. This info is also for anyone in this world who holds freedom in high esteem, like I do.







Illuminati Timeline

Illuminati (on Wikipedia)

New England and the Bavarian Illuminati - Chapter III (by Vernon L. Stauffer Ph.D.)

Illuminati Conspiracy Part One: A Precise Exegesis on the Available Evidence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abb%C3...in_Barru%C3%A9l

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Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. - President Woodrow Wilson

Here's a few other links which aren't specifically related to the Illuminati, per se, but still ties in to their plan for world domination...

America's Empire of Bases

Shadow Government

FEMA's Black Budget

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