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Originally posted by Aiwendil
No, they didn't. First of all recorded human voices cut and pasted together aren't staples of Techno. Secondly, there were other people making music with synthesizers and using the cut-and-pasting method long before Pink Floyd. Like Can, Faust, Yellow Magic Orchestra, Kraftwerk, Parmegiani, Sala, Dockstader, and Baltan.


Ok, you're entitled to an opinion, but please notice that I said "pioneered", NOT invented...The names that you mentioned never reached the commercial success or influence that PF reached. Using human voices at varying speeds to create layered rhythm is NOT a STAPLE, but definately a pattern that techno follows.. taking a variety of sounds and layering them at different speeds with no particular defining melody, is a type of techno....Also, I did NOT say that PF were the first band to use the cut and paste method in music...this method is a staple of the early classic rock era... listen dude, basically, these guys WERE studio pioneers using techniques that paved the way for New Wave and Synth band producers in the 80s and the eventual onslaught of EDM producers... They weren't the only ones, but the ones that I chose to discuss here. Please, tell us more facts of the artists you speak of..... that's what this thread is about

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Paul van Dyk met his future wife Natascha for the first time @ loveparade 1993 and suddenly fell in love with her. He was so impressed, that in the next days after loveparade he wrote a special track in dedication to that girl. He put all his emotions and feelings into that track, what became probably his most intimate production ever.

That little song was released on his album 45 RPM under the name "For An Angel", re-released in 1998 with the massive E-Werk Club Mix, and became on of the biggest club-hits ever...

Love is stronger than everything...


Very interesting thanks for that.


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oh The Digital Blonde produced with an old Atari with 4 mb ram just until last year when he bought himself a new Apple.


i believe this is near enough the truth for lange too, at least, prior to 2003.

& lmao @ pulser

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Originally posted by zenperson
Ok, you're entitled to an opinion, but please notice that I said "pioneered", NOT invented...The names that you mentioned never reached the commercial success or influence that PF reached.


None of the people I listed invented Techno. And I guess nobody I mentioned pioneered anything...riiiiight. Several of the people I mentioned are legends of electronic music. Not pop music, electronic music, and are cited as influences to people who did invent techno and pioneer techno. therefore have more relevance in pioneering "techno" than Pink Floyd ever did.


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taking a variety of sounds and layering them at different speeds with no particular defining melody, is a type of techno


It's also a type of Trance.


quote:
Please, tell us more facts of the artists you speak of..... that's what this thread is about


Here's a fact: If it wasn't for Kraftwerk and YMO, and maybe a few others, half the artists in the EDM scene wouldn't exist today. The same can't be said for Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd reached commercial success as a rock band, it had nothing to do with their electronic music "experiments". The big players of EDM from 1980-1990 don't list Pink Floyd as their influences.


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MIDI at the least possible instant is 100ms off from the corrected timeclock ... scientifically proven . Look it up .


that info is outdated, midi via usb/firewire, look it up.


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Here's a fact: If it wasn't for Kraftwerk and YMO, and maybe a few others, half the artists in the EDM scene wouldn't exist today. The same can't be said for Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd reached commercial success as a rock band, it had nothing to do with their electronic music "experiments". The big players of EDM from 1980-1990 don't list Pink Floyd as their influences.


man oh man... i'm not going to make any progress here, so i'm just going to agree and disagree at the same time....lol...

But, I can safely say this... i think that most any producer from any genre would derive some inspiration from PF....

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swampers friend had one already


do i really have to ask?


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Nice thread, some interesting stuff here


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that info is outdated, midi via usb/firewire, look it up.
MIDI to USB is still slow in compared to milliseconds, thats why I didn't list what type of MIDI hook-up genius ... The standard serial port is fucking faster than USB ... Reinvestigate you knowledge before tryin to correct me ... or test the theory yourself ... I'll put everything I own on it ... haha ...


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Did you know....
Its physically impossible to lick your own elbow...
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haha good one ... It's also physically impossible to stand completely straight, with your legs and back straight against a wall, and try to bend down and touch your toes ...


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Did you know....
Its physically impossible to lick your own elbow...
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Damn you, I just got caught by my workmates trying


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