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Originally posted by DigiNut On the music or the titties? Probably I've just been listening to too many of the brilliant producers lately, like BT, Autechre, Shulman, FSOL, etc. trying to get some inspiration, but it does more harm than good because I can't even begin to fathom how they create some of their effects, let alone recreate them or come up with something of equivalent quality.

word indeed, listening to alot of experienced, talented, skilled people with alot of releases on their hands its not often a good idea, i tend to "think" about certain tracks when im producing, and i try to make the same kind of track, or same kind of parts of the track.. 90% of the times i just close the sequencer and do some other shit instead..

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It's hard, but you should always try and compare your tunes against your own recent productions, and not against professional tracks.

Of course you'll want to listen to pro tracks to find out where the quality bar is, but be careful not to get frustrated because you don't achieve that quality.

As long as you improve compare to your last song, you're making progress! And even if you don't improve, at least you've had more practice and are more likely to improve with your next one.

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True.. I usually tend to look up the experience behind the pros too if I'm comparing my tracks with theirs and that kinda keeps me away from being frustrated. I mean some of the pros have 10+ years of music production experience and that's ALOT! I mean think about how much you've improved in the last year and times that by 10 to see where you'd be 10 years from now (if you stick to production that is).

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Originally posted by digitul punk True.. I usually tend to look up the experience behind the pros too if I'm comparing my tracks with theirs and that kinda keeps me away from being frustrated......

True. Some people just don't realise when they're comparing their track to a pr0s track how much blood and sweat as gone into evolving that style. I find alot of people just want it easy and start complaining when they can't get a 'perfect kick' or can't get the lead just right.

The more you put in the more you get out.

I think that's one of the enduring formulas a producer should live by.

I agree with not comparing your tracks with pros - but doesn't it just totally piss you off when someone posts something like: "Ok guys, I thought I'd give production a shot, so I bought cubase yesterday and played around with it and got this noobish sounding thing *link" And then it turns out to be something ten times better than what you ever managed to produce in your first year

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Originally posted by Aquarian I agree with not comparing your tracks with pros - but doesn't it just totally piss you off when someone posts something like: "Ok guys, I thought I'd give production a shot, so I bought cubase yesterday and played around with it and got this noobish sounding thing *link" And then it turns out to be something ten times better than what you ever managed to produce in your first year

Heh, not really though.. I think when you're producing music you should always keep an open mind about certain things and you should also realize the fact that no matter how good you get there is always gonna be someone out there that can do better than you in a shorter period of time because they might have a musical background or they might just be talented like that.

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Originally posted by Aquarian I agree with not comparing your tracks with pros - but doesn't it just totally piss you off when someone posts something like: "Ok guys, I thought I'd give production a shot, so I bought cubase yesterday and played around with it and got this noobish sounding thing *link" And then it turns out to be something ten times better than what you ever managed to produce in your first year

I think I was the n00b in that sentence. Seriously though, I pick up concepts quickly, which I think is why it's so frustrating when I have to struggle with one for a long time.

I do understand what you're saying though; for people who haven't been knee-deep in music and technology their whole life, it's frustrating when it seems to come so much easier for other people. It's very important not to go down that path though - it leads to unnecessary competitiveness and generally knocks all the fun out of it. Everyone starts at their own level and learns at their own pace!

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I think aswell, you have to know what your actual ability is when it comes to producing. Continuing my point about researching too much without practice...

I mean, how many of you can honestly say when you were in your infancy as a producer, you never gave up on a song in it's early stages because you couldn't get it sounding anywhere near as good as some other song you wish you could live up to.

I think it's important to know your limits when producing a track. Trying to live up or compare your tracks to producers that have been doing it for a long time won't get you anywhere. You must compare or measure your progress to your last track and nothing else.

Last edited by Tech0rz on Oct-20-2005 at 16:09

I quite like Liam from the Prodigy's view on productions. He says that he has this one playing in his head and everytime he writes a track, he's just trying to get that one track out of his head and into sound.
He's probably accomplished that by now, since the interview I read was about 5 years ago now.

I do think its a pretty cool way of looking at musical progression though. Sort of takes the whole concept of 'pro' and 'n00b' out of the equation and makes it more relative to where your coming from regardless of your skill level. You can try and write the same tune from scratch a hundred times and come out with different results each time.

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