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kernkraft
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
I'm very tempted to copy and paste my MSN convo with Mike but that would be cruel (in case you're wondering, no outcome was reached on which we both agreed but I did stop arguing the point about 20 mins before Mike did )

But basically I support the idea of it being subjective (what a boring result eh? crap end to a good argument!), based on how the phrasing feels to the listener... not what the easiest way to write it down is.


seems like there are we only 3 people interested in this would you PM the conversation to me?

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Mike_Foyle
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Registered: Mar 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Kernkraft400
seems like there are we only 3 people interested in this would you PM the conversation to me?


basically we agreed to disagree, and then started to talk about how the french eat horses, which i find fascinating.


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kernkraft
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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
ok fair point, but as i sequenced it in 6/8, the rest of the track would be in 6/8 to. and as there is nothing but the percussion to base the time signature on, thats all u can base it on.


there is not such thing as a "definition" what is 6/8 or 4/4... music could actually exist without these measures, but it would be much more harder to compose and play... my personal defining tool for measures (which is also the best i have) is my brain, and when i listen to your sample, it tells me 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4... and not 1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6 (double tempo)... edit: at least when there is the kick

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Mike_Foyle
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Kernkraft400
there is not such thing as a "definition" what is 6/8 or 4/4... music could actually exist without these measures, but it would be much more harder to compose and play... my personal defining tool for measures (which is also the best i have) is my brain, and when i listen to your sample, it tells me 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4... and not 1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6 (double tempo)...


good point, at the end of the day it depends where u put the line between maths and perception, lets agree to disagree


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quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
good point, at the end of the day it depends where u put the line between maths and perception, lets agree to disagree


I dont even think that we actually disagree, because there is no standard which could be correct or wrong... so it depends on the listener. full stop

did you know that many french eat frogs too? and my guest family even served bowels when I was there...

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Kernkraft400
I dont even think that we actually disagree, because there is no standard which could be correct or wrong... so it depends on the listener. full stop

did you know that many french eat frogs too? and my guest family even served bowels when I was there...


eww.. well each to their own eh? tell ya what, i found another track to prove the point that i was originally trying to make. not all dance is in 4/4, this is in 3/4.. in fact it was my good friend stu cox who found this track for me. pjotr g, if you read this, i think your track is genius!

http://www.mikefoyle.com/Pjotr_G_-_321.mp3


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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
eww.. well each to their own eh? tell ya what, i found another track to prove the point that i was originally trying to make. not all dance is in 4/4, this is in 3/4.. in fact it was my good friend stu cox who found this track for me. pjotr g, if you read this, i think your track is genius!

http://www.mikefoyle.com/Pjotr_G_-_321.mp3


the drum samples dont sound very different... but its very interesting to hear that... aphex twins tunes have wicked measures. and hey ya (what i posted above) is written in 11/4...
(btw, paul is nr 1 )

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Kernkraft400
the drum samples dont sound very different... but its very interesting to hear that... aphex twins tunes have wicked measures. and hey ya (what i posted above) is written in 11/4...
(btw, paul is nr 1 )
differnet to what??


and oh yeah, hey ya! there was that other one to, with the guy whisling, some wierd time signature


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quote:
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differnet to what??


and oh yeah, hey ya! there was that other one to, with the guy whisling, some wierd time signature


sorry i was not very clear :-) the actual drum samples are the same, arent they? the bassdrum sounds very similar... im listening to the top 100 announcement atm so im not really able to compare these excerpts in detail

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Originally posted by DJ Kernkraft400
sorry i was not very clear :-) the actual drum samples are the same, arent they? the bassdrum sounds very similar... im listening to the top 100 announcement atm so im not really able to compare these excerpts in detail


u mean the same as in my sample? no they arent, must be coincidence

hehe


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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
u mean the same as in my sample? no they arent, must be coincidence

hehe


ok, nevermind... dont know, but threads like this somehow motivate me to try totally new things... until now, i made only 4/4 tracks, but why not drift into IDM and create an 11/12 thing tomorrow? Its always the same with these technical threads about production and music theory.. how about you?

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Kernkraft400
why not drift into IDM and create an 11/12 thing tomorrow?

do it!


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