this thread makes me nervous.

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Originally posted by lex400sc pop is a musical adj much like 'hard' (hard house, hard rock, hard rap), so it describes the lcd of any major genre. there's pop rock, pop trance, hip-pop, etc...

so porcupine tree are popular in america now? wow i didn't realize.

i've never seen a cred music site list a style called pop trance. pop rock is a fusion between pop and actual rock. though rock isn't a style it's a genre, the term pop-rock is stuff like ashlee simpson. if i go and make a band right now the style will still be pop rock though i won't be popular

pop is short for popular, though, when it comes it to POP COLTURE.

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Originally posted by Lepanto so porcupine tree are popular in america now? wow i didn't realize. i've never seen a cred music site list a style called pop trance. pop rock is a fusion between pop and actual rock. though rock isn't a style it's a genre, the term pop-rock is stuff like ashlee simpson. if i go and make a band right now the style will still be pop rock though i won't be popular

i realize pop is a genre of its own, but pop is also a descriptive word for the mainstream (pop-culture). whatever, i think everyone here gets waaay too caught up with labels...

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Originally posted by Ishkur You and me baby ain't nothin' but mammals, so let's do it like they do on the discovery channel. *chortle*

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Originally posted by lex400sc i realize pop is a genre of its own, but pop is also a descriptive word for the mainstream (pop-culture). whatever, i think everyone here gets waaay too caught up with labels...

I'd have to say I agree. The problem with people is the same as it was 40 years ago during the rock n roll era. Everyone tries to be so different that they end up being all the same anyways.

The only problem i have with people who listen to cheese or say shit like i'll listen to anything as long as it has a nice beat or something is that they aren't stimulating their mind or broadening their views and feelings through the art of music.

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lex400sc is actually right. Pop music is not a thing. It is a process.

The goal of pop is to water down and smooth out music, making it palatable for mass digestion. Any genre of music can become pop if it’s given the shiny, plastic, polished sheen of simple tinker toys (or any mass-produced consumer good). In fact, over the past fifty years, everything, from rap, to rock, to punk, to R&B, to jazz, to techno become pop music at one time or another. The purpose of pop music is not to evoke emotion or have any lasting appeal. It is to sell the most music to the most possible numbers of people. It is essentially fast food; something people do not value the inherent quality of but seek instantaneous and short-term sustenance.

Now, one does not subsist entirely on a diet of pop music. It doesn’t have enough substance to have any kind of genuine lasting appeal. It is devoured by society in much the same way a seed passes undigested through the body of a bird. It is enjoyed, for the most part, by children, who cling to it as they would their training wheels when they first learn to ride a bike, as they spend the first half of their lives groping for a musical identity to call their own. As they mature and find their footing, however, they no longer need the training wheels of the pop music industry to spoon-feed what it thinks is cool to them. They are mature enough to leave the nest of commercial music, and strike out for their own eclectic music niches. Typically, this starts happening around the ages of 17-20.

good job Ishkur you've said the same thing I just said in the second part and in the first part you described the process of "engineering" the song.

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Originally posted by idoru You do know that he's produced a bunch of N*Sync's tracks?

sure, but does it make Gabriel and Dresden breakbeat DJs when they remixed way out west tunes?

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Most of the music discussed and liked here is cheese, not only trance.

Definitely.

It is cheese, pop, whatever you wanna call it. That doesn't make it bad. No, what makes it bad is when you start getting pretentious about it. Claiming stuff, like the thread starter here. I listen to some cheesy fuckin' German trance, but that doesn't mean I take that shit seriously. It's music meant for passive listening, it has no deeper purpose. Additionally, I only listen to it in moderate amounts. Whenever I need something catchy to listen to, when I want to relax my mind. That's what it's for. The rest of my attention goes to dub techno, breakcore, IDM, whatever I'm in the mood for, and whatever purpose that music has.

Now, I suggest that the thread starter start diversifying a bit. Listen to new artists. Understand what kinds of EDM are out there, 'cuz right now, it seems like you have no idea.

Have a nice day.