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Terrorism is rarely based on what one stands to gain, except in the area of intimidation, which is why it's almost invariably committed on innocent people. And in the area of intimidation, I'd say the terrorists gained quite a bit - the USA may not have sat idly by, but most of Europe is terrified of angering the "Arab street".

most people outside the US realize the facts about what happened and are not worried about some dudes wrapped in blankets armed with razor blades. they choose to live their lives while CNN continues to sell you on the terrorist crap to gain power by creating fear to their own people. you did not answer my question, who stood to gain?

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Originally posted by solgrabber most people outside the US realize the facts about what happened and are not worried about some dudes wrapped in blankets armed with razor blades. they choose to live their lives while CNN continues to sell you on the terrorist crap to gain power by creating fear to their own people. you did not answer my question, who stood to gain?

Just to let you know,you are wasting your time and effort with Diginut,he will just start calling you names,he is hopeless.

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Originally posted by DigiNut What about it? What is your implication - that the U.S. and over 30 other nations were all playing a trick, and yet no one in this grand conspiracy had the foresight to plant a few vials of anthrax, strap some rockets to camels, snap some pictures and send them home? Honestly, are you that daft?

Ever hear of the Illuminati? How about the Freemasons?

Maybe people believe that if there was a conspiracy, it would be easily visible & there would be proof of one.

Do you believe the government would let such proof exist? No they wouldnt. Which is why you dont see any solid evidence supporting the small amount of people who believe that 9/11 was all a lie.
But if you look at all the strange behavior on the governments part & use some common sense. You will realize that there is more to what happend then what the "offical report" says happend.

Sure, i'll admit that we might be wrong, that there might not be a conspiracy. Fack, we just might all be crazy in the head.

But at least we are asking questions! WE arent going to just let thousands of people die without getting some good answers to the weird reports that followed 9/11.

Why did the CIA.. one of the most well funded government programs, fail when it came to protecting the US?
& dont give me that "they didnt take BinLaden seriously" crap. Cuz they take EVER threat to america seriously!

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Just to let you know,you are wasting your time and effort with Diginut,he will just start calling you names,he is hopeless.

he seems intelligent enough, i just want to hear him say something that he has not watched or read from cnn or a toronto star article.

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Originally posted by cyper Ever hear of the Illuminati? How about the Freemasons?

Okay, there goes any credibility you might have had to start with. So long, and thanks for comin' out!

There were no weird reports after 9/11. All of the "weird" information was pretty much made up by the conspiracy nuts.

We asked questions. We got answers. They were all in the 9/11 Commission Report. Try reading something factual instead of the garbage that gets posted on paranoid blogs.

And to the other dude: I don't watch CNN or read the Star. I get enough of the loony left from reading this forum.

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I wasn't telling you to stop asking questions. The US government does do some very shady things. However, the Pentagon conspiracy has been disproven a long time ago. I watched that flash soo long ago, and I thought to myself, wow, that did seem pretty convincing. Then like a year later I found the PM article, saw the pictures of the plane wreckage at the Pentagon, and thought "well, whadda ya know. It seems the flash was just making shit up."

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he seems intelligent enough, i just want to hear him say something that he has not watched or read from cnn or a toronto star article.

And I want to hear you say something that has any scientific basis whatsoever. Leave the 'could haves' and 'would haves' out of this. The further this discussion continues, the further we are straying from the point - until you somehow prove the conspiracies, all of your talk about who had to gain what and how the government could have done this to gain political leverage is just speculation. Nothing more.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Okay, there goes any credibility you might have had to start with. So long, and thanks for comin' out! There were no weird reports after 9/11. All of the "weird" information was pretty much made up by the conspiracy nuts.

I can see we are never gunna get anywhere with you on this subject.

So I give up for tonight. Good Luck solgrabber!



Good arguing with you thou! ur one tough cookie to break.

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Dude, seriously, do you not realize that the Illuminati and the Freemasons were inventions of the paranoid schizophrenics? They're delusions. They aren't real. THERE IS NO SUCH THING.

Christ, it's unbelievable how gullible some people can be. That's what happens when you start refusing to "trust" the media or any legitimate source of information though... you start believing any old crap. Trusting no one is, at a fundamental level, the same as believing everyone.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Dude, seriously, do you not realize that the Illuminati and the Freemasons were inventions of the paranoid schizophrenics? They're delusions. They aren't real. THERE IS NO SUCH THING. Christ, it's unbelievable how gullible some people can be. That's what happens when you start refusing to "trust" the media or any legitimate source of information though... you start believing any old crap. Trusting no one is, at a fundamental level, the same as believing everyone.

The same can be said for you.

We might just be a bunch of crazy conspiracy theory fucks who believe in bullshit to make the world seem more interesting.

But there is a chance that we are correct. And that the rest of the population like yourself has been lied to and deceived since the ancient times.

We can argue intil the end of the earth, & we will never know who is trully correct.

If you think im wrong, & that you are 100% correct. Then you have already limited your mind. And there is no more reason to continue arguing.

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Originally posted by cyper The same can be said for you. We might just be a bunch of crazy conspiracy theory fucks who believe in bullshit to make the world seem more interesting. But there is a chance that we are correct. And that the rest of the population like yourself has been lied to and deceived since the ancient times. We can argue intil the end of the earth, & we will never know who is trully correct. If you think im wrong, & that you are 100% correct. Then you have already limited your mind. And there is no more reason to continue arguing. Enjoy.

You're treating this as though it's merely a matter of opinion or perspective. I'll give credence to your assertions when you back them up with evidence. Otherwise, I'll draw my conclusions from the evidence that actually does exist. I have no reason to believe that everyone except for you and the other wackos have been feeding me baloney, and I have every reason to believe the opposite.

There's a chance that the earth is flat. I haven't personally walked in a straight line for long enough to prove that it's a sphere. But I've seen more than enough evidence to know beyond a reasonable doubt that it's the latter. Same goes for this 9/11 nonsense - provide us with some proof, rather than idle speculation and paranoid fantasies, and maybe you'll be perceived as something other than a crackpot.

Paranoid schizophrenics have perfectly reasonable and valid explanations for their apparent persecution. But they're still wrong. There's no evidence to back up those assertions and plenty of evidence that it's all in their heads.

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Thats the problem. THERE IS NO ACTAUL PROOF. Otherwise, it wouldnt be called a conspiracy theory.

All we have is just a bunch of very weird coincidences.

I actaully hope there isnt a conspiracy. Cause life seems alot more peaceful knowing we arent ruled by an Elite few.

But because of those weird coincidences.. we shouldnt 100% rule out the possibility of a conspiracy either.

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Originally posted by cyper But because of those weird coincidences.. we shouldnt 100% rule out the possibility of a conspiracy either.

Yes, we should. Coincidences are just that - coincidences - unless there is evidence to prove a causal connection. We need not concern ourselves with theories for which there is no supporting evidence - doing so would bring the progress of the entire scientific world to a screeching halt.

And once again I'll direct you to the fact that most of the "coincidences" you're referring to aren't coincidences at all, they're just complete fabrications by wack jobs (or more likely, in my opinion, ordinary dudes trying to see just how gullible the conspiracy nuts are and laughing their asses off later on).

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