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quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Madonna is a master of taking what the underground is doing, exploiting it, and selling a cheap, plastic pop version of it to the masses for commercial digestion.

1990: Madonna looks at the underground New York gay fashion scene, full of style, excess, posture, and that lovely Italo House with those piano hooks. She rips off the scene and releases Vogue/

1992: Madonna focuses her sights on the emerging club kink/fetish scene, exploits it, and churns out Erotica. (and releases a raunchy book too, perfect for the art-house crowd).

1998: Madonna sees the growing fascination with trance explode everywhere, seeks to exploit it, hires William Orbit to be her Producer, and the end result is Ray of Light.

2000: French house is king in the club circuit, Madonna notices this too, seeks some funky french filter beats on her next album, which becomes Music.

2005: Now electro-house rules the dancefloors. Naturally, Madonna wants to co-opt this and pretend it's something she invented too. So Confessions on a Dancefloor has got the neo-synthpop sound through and through. The smartest thing she did was hire Les Rhythmes Digitales to be the mastermind of it.

For all her staying power, Madonna is really only good at one thing: Surrounding herself with the best people she can find. I think of her more as a clever businessperson, a scenester, a poser, and a fronter all in one. But not really a musician. She's good at what she does, but she's really only a hollow faceplate, a shallow shell of what's actually there.


True. But most artists in most genres of music have to "grab whats for the taking" if you understand what I mean in order to sell records. The top selling records in the billboard (hip hop/pop) were produced by the top guys out there for example the neptunes,kool & dre, lil john,the alchemist, just blaze,kanye west,dr.dre and many more. Do you guys remember Ricky Martin, he hasnt had a hit in a long time and then what does he do, he goes and purchases a hot beat/instrumental made by the new producer Scott Storch and joins up with rising star Amerie and Fat Joe and makes a single called "I don't care" and its been playing on the major radio and Tv stations. Madonna is only doing what is necessary to sell, she does have talent and made some real classic tracks in her early career so please don't criticize her for what shes doing, because most artists who want to sell records have followed a similar formula. The only difference is that to get a "beat"/"instrumental" made for you by a famous non-edm producer it will cost you a fortune. If you want to make it and have a long "staying power" as you mentioned Ishkur, the artist has to keep putting out good music with catchy songs with beats like Jay Z has for a long period of time and all his recent album sales speak for themself. Madonna is only doing what she knows she needs to do to $ell.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Madonna is a master of taking what the underground is doing, exploiting it, and selling a cheap, plastic pop version of it to the masses for commercial digestion.

1990: Madonna looks at the underground New York gay fashion scene, full of style, excess, posture, and that lovely Italo House with those piano hooks. She rips off the scene and releases Vogue.

1992: Madonna focuses her sights on the emerging club kink/fetish scene, exploits it, and churns out Erotica. (and releases a raunchy book too, perfect for the art-house crowd).

1998: Madonna sees the growing fascination with trance explode everywhere, seeks to exploit it, hires William Orbit to be her Producer, and the end result is Ray of Light.

2000: French house is king in the club circuit, Madonna notices this too, seeks some funky french filter beats on her next album, which becomes Music. The real genius behind this album? Mirwais.

2005: Now electro-house rules the dancefloors. Naturally, Madonna wants to co-opt this and pretend it's something she invented too. So Confessions on a Dancefloor has got the neo-synthpop sound through and through. The smartest thing she did was hire Les Rhythmes Digitales to be the mastermind of it.

For all her staying power, Madonna is really only good at one thing: Surrounding herself with the best people she can find. I think of her more as a clever businessperson, a scenester, a poser, and a fronter all in one. But not really a musician. She's good at what she does, but she's really only a hollow faceplate, a shallow shell of what's actually there.


i think thats the first post of urs ive ever agreed with. kudos to u


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I'm kind of amused by Ish's post. I mean, duh, that's the point of Madonna.

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I'm kind of amused by Ish's post. I mean, duh, that's the point of Madonna.


exactly altho incase of ray of light, only ray of light,skin and sky fits heaven has that distinctive trancesound really. nothing really matters is house, frozen is ambient breaks, the rest are downtempo or standard pop things


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listening to the album now.
nice.

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i heard a couple of months ago an interview with Juliet (by Tong i think, in Ibiza) about how Jacques Lu Cont is working with Madonna now, did he have anything at all to do with this track?


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^i believe he produced the entire album... i think it was mentioned a page or two earlier in the thread...

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yeah Stuart Price produced madonna's album and gwen stefani's...

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quote:
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yeah Stuart Price produced madonna's album and gwen stefani's...


thanks jason.

btw, his remix of "what you waiting for" i absolutely still love.. such a great catch to it (and i don't mean the vocals).

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btw, his remix of "what you waiting for" i absolutely still love.. such a great catch to it (and i don't mean the vocals).


Absolutly great song

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I am sampling some of the tracks off of the official Madonna website. It is VERY disco

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