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Turbonium
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
People often use Hard Drives to backup files, But they aren't reliable for long term use cause usually when in a year or so, You end up buying a bigger Hard Drive as prices go down. However, The ultimate backups will always be DVDRs, But with Blu-Ray on the horizon, It can hold about 20gigs or more on storage capacity.

I don't agree. Optical storage just isn't as reliable for long term backup. For one thing, the only thing separating your data from the elements is this thin layer of material. And you gotta watch out for sunlight, humidity, disc bending (even slight), etc.

Optical storage just seems so fragile by nature. It's nothing but pits in a chemical medium. Nothing beats having a mirroring array of some sorts via enterprise-quality HDDs. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for.

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TigerClaw
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Originally posted by Turbonium
I don't agree. Optical storage just isn't as reliable for long term backup. For one thing, the only thing separating your data from the elements is this thin layer of material. And you gotta watch out for sunlight, humidity, disc bending (even slight), etc.

Optical storage just seems so fragile by nature. It's nothing but pits in a chemical medium. Nothing beats having a mirroring array of some sorts via enterprise-quality HDDs. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for.

Thats because people in general don't know how to handle CDRs or DVDRs, Everyone know that you should never grab or touch the reading part of them, It always pains me to see someone misshandling CDRs by leaving them laying around a counter or something with the lable facing up, When the part where it reads is laying down flat and getting scratches all over them or finger prints.


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Turbonium
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quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
Thats because people in general don't know how to handle CDRs or DVDRs, Everyone know that you should never grab or touch the reading part of them, It always pains me to see someone misshandling CDRs by leaving them laying around a counter or something with the lable facing up, When the part where it reads is laying down flat and getting scratches all over them or finger prints.

I for one know how to handle them, but I know that, as a result of shelf-life, the integrity of the discs WILL degrade.

Honestly, try researching on the net. The nature of optical discs, particularly in the way that they are implemented in terms of "@ home burning", is such that the disc integrity will break down eventually. Sometimes within 10 years even on high quality medium.

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tranceDJ
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: USA

quote:
Originally posted by Turbonium
I for one know how to handle them, but I know that, as a result of shelf-life, the integrity of the discs WILL degrade.

Honestly, try researching on the net. The nature of optical discs, particularly in the way that they are implemented in terms of "@ home burning", is such that the disc integrity will break down eventually. Sometimes within 10 years even on high quality medium.


They are less durable but they are cheaper than going out and getting a new hard drive...hard drives will always be fine as long as you buy a decent one and are careful not to get viruses.

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eternity4ever
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: calgary

i had a 30 gig temp hardrive crash past week.
it felt like a friend or a family just past away.

but luckly i got most of the stuff back.


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mizzuno
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: New York

The two worst enemies of your hard drive are:

1.heat
2.vibration

Optical media has its own issues, particularly a fungus/mold that happens tothrive on aluminum, which just so happens to be the substrate that the pits are burned into. This problem tends to rear its head under circumstances where there is high humidity present. Check your old cdrs for what looks like darkened areas especially aroung the edges,that is probably the aforementioned problem, it only get worse so make sure you make a copy asap.

If you really want protection i suggest RAID 1 disk mirroring, while this does not guarantee no loss of data, it reduces the probability by an order of magnitude. The likelyhood of two hard drives failing simultaneously is very low.

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Allied Nations
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just make sure the bulk of your data is in two places

or at least the data you care about.


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mizzuno
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quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
just make sure the bulk of your data is in two places

or at least the data you care about.


best advice there is..

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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by mizzuno
best advice there is..


Hence the reason I've never lost a single mp3..

I mean never lost a single file.


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quote:
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Hence the reason I've never lost a single mp3..

I mean never lost a single file.

banned!

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Boomer187
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everyone who reads this thread will have their hard drive crash soon!

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