I would like to hope that any future politicians will soon realize that going to war (unless enemy troops are landing on the Jersey shore) is career suicide.

I think the American people have had it with these "police action" wars and hopefully, after this chapter is closed, we will start to address the real internal problems that we (U.S) have.

A war with China would be THE end for all of us, having been there myself and seen the true nature of the Chinese people, making war (with the U.S. or anyone else, really) is not in their best interest. Taiwan is a flashpoint but I doubt if it would lead to all out war.


...but who knows, I hope I don't live to see it.

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Originally posted by Lepanto yes luxembourg. america currently has it's mass population sleeping in the streets, with rioting and looting in major cities, enourmous unemployment and inflation, 12 people living in one room shacks and so on

Those of us who ARE doing conspicuously and consumptively well are living on mostly borrowed money. And our thriving populace must surely include those already forgotten Gulf War veterans (who make up 10% of our country's homeless veteran population.)

In Los Angeles County, CA alone, there are around 100,000 homeless people on any given day.

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The number of people below the official poverty thresholds numbered 35.9 million in 2003, or 1.3 million more than in 2002, for a 2003 poverty rate of 12.5 percent. Although up from 2002, this rate is below the average of the 1980s and 1990s. The poverty rate and number of families in poverty increased from 9.6 percent and 7.2 million in 2002 to 10.0 percent and 7.6 million in 2003. The corresponding numbers for unrelated individuals in poverty in 2003 were 20.4 percent and 9.7 million (not different from 2002). Hidalgo County, Texas (38.0 percent), and Cameron County, Texas (36.5 percent), had poverty rates higher than those of the other 231 counties, though not different from one another. http://www.census.gov/Press-Release...lth/002484.html

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Census Bureau says 1.3 million more slipped into poverty last year; health care coverage also drops. August 26, 2004: 1:54 PM EDT WASHINGTON (CNN) - The number of Americans living in poverty jumped to 35.9 million last year, up by 1.3 million, while the number of those without health care insurance rose to 45 million from 43.6 million in 2002, the U.S. government said in a report Thursday. http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/26/new...poverty_survey/

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Those of us who ARE doing conspicuously and consumptively well are living on mostly borrowed money.

OH MAN are you correct on that one!! Could you imagine if the foreign banking giants (like HSBC) suddenly foreclosed on all outstanding debt, we would be screwed as a country *Ka putt*

well i think either N. Korea or Iran are next. I mean, it just makes most sense... they gotta build a case before they attack, and they're getting at it. so sometime within the next year or so.

>JM<

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Originally posted by JM well i think either N. Korea or Iran are next. I mean, it just makes most sense... they gotta build a case before they attack, and they're getting at it. so sometime within the next year or so. >JM<

I don't think the upper power circle could even build a "case" for violin right now, with the American people being so skeptical about ANY new military action, unless there was a direct attack on U.S. soil, again, with a clear aggressor.

Syria!!!

please?

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Those of us who ARE doing conspicuously and consumptively well are living on mostly borrowed money. And our thriving populace must surely include those already forgotten Gulf War veterans (who make up 10% of our country's homeless veteran population.) In Los Angeles County, CA alone, there are around 100,000 homeless people on any given day.

Yet, most of those have an established line of credit and aren't about to lose their homes tommora morning. Even more so, none of them are going to take up arms against the governemtn. Which was the original point

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Originally posted by Lepanto BTW, a country is usually recognised or not by the UN not the US, fool.

But silly, US think it owns the UN.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid China.

US is shit scared of China, it can only attack small, weak and crippled countries like Afganistan, Iraq, Libia etc. And is it.

They dont have guts or ass to attack China. Because they know China will wipe their history off from planet Earth if US attacks them.

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Originally posted by Purple But silly, US think it owns the UN.

Re-read what you've just said


So just because the US "thinks" it owns the UN; UN itself doesn't recognize countries? don't you think you mean it controls the UN which it doesn't. IDK if you follow any sort of international news.

Furthermore, how much does the UN help? not too much now. They come up with settlement plans and referendums for countries that want no help that way from them. They threaten action yet do NOTHING. Cyprus, ex-Yugoslavian conflict, Chechnya, oh and Somalia, the UN goes in, around 1993 when it barely has helped people out of famine, takes on some casualties and leaves! and speaking of Somalia, the northern Somaliland is also not recognized by any government.


and you clearly don't know history do ya?

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Syria or Iran I think will be next.

Not that I wish for them to happen of course, but I think this Iraq stuff is only the beginning of a larger campaign in the middle east to weed out the groups that want to destroy us. I think though that the war is only breeding more of those people who want to see the USA burn.

I hope we can all get along one of these days but I dont see how it can happen when there is a huge group of extremists dedicated to killing as many westerners as possible.