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Originally posted by RebeL9 here is what I would consider as "REAL" trance: http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/firedance.mp3 http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/star.mp3 http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/power.mp3 http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/paraglidersoasis.mp3 oh yeah there are still producers who make trance which isn't ravaged by the supersaws and vocals.

Wikked tunes

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so basically, uplifting is different for everyone bcz different songs uplift different ppl.

in my opinion, oceanlab - satellite is uplifting.

to me, i also consider uplifting tracks songs that uplift a set to a higher/harder level. for example, u play satelite and then play a harder track after that. so i consider satelite the uplifting track of the set.

thats how i consider it, im not saying im right. plz correct me if im totally wrong

p.s. i thought there was NO genre called TRANCE back in the days, trance is a new born genre from all the other classics, including the ones u posted above.

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Originally posted by stefanoc p.s. i thought there was NO genre called TRANCE back in the days, trance is a new born genre from all the other classics, including the ones u posted above.

you are wrong. the term "trance" have existed way over 10 years now

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Originally posted by RebeL9 you are wrong. the term "trance" have existed way over 10 years now

Make that 15. The use of the word "trance" with regards to long, repetitive electronic music dates back to the late 80s, with the genre finding a specific musical identity circa 1990/91. In essence, like drum 'n bass, the term existed before there was a cast iron style to actually apply it to.

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I read somewhere that it was two German producers named Rolf Elmmer and Dag Lerner who released a tune around 1991/1992 called "Dance 2 Trance" on Suck Me Plasma. This was the first time, or so it is said, that the actual word "trance" was applied to electronic music. I'm not claiming that this must be true but it's what i've heard.

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Originally posted by Numidia I read somewhere that it was two German producers named Rolf Elmmer and Dag Lerner who released a tune around 1991/1992 called "Dance 2 Trance" on Suck Me Plasma. This was the first time, or so it is said, that the actual word "trance" was applied to electronic music. I'm not claiming that this must be true but it's what i've heard.

yea the duo called Dance 2 Trance released numerous trance hits back in early 90s. Most famous for Power of American Natives, Take a Free Fall ,Hello San Fransisco and We Came In Peace. They always had a great ethnic touch to their productions. They tried to use the trance music to go back to the roots of shamanic trance dances which can clearly be heard in many of their tunes.
Too bad they split up in 1995 after releasing only 2 albums.

oh btw:
http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/power.mp3 = Dance 2 Trance - Power of American Natives (Dance 2 Trance remix) from 1993

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Originally posted by RebeL9 yea the duo called Dance 2 Trance released numerous trance hits back in early 90s. Most famous for Power of American Natives, Take a Free Fall ,Hello San Fransisco and We Came In Peace. They always had a great ethnic touch to their productions. They tried to use the trance music to go back to the roots of shamanic trance dances which can clearly be heard in many of their tunes. Too bad they split up in 1995 after releasing only 2 albums. oh btw: http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/power.mp3 = Dance 2 Trance - Power of American Natives (Dance 2 Trance remix) from 1993

Why did they split up?

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i always thought that "true" trance was the tribal music, where they all sing and hit bongas and they all go into a sort of trance, until one collapses...

This is probarbly is originated 10000's of years ago

This is NOT uplifting trance:




Thus concludes today's lesson. Stay tuned for lesson number two in the series "What is NOT uplifting trance", by Aiwendil McRadagast.

I think the definition of trance is highly subjective. I mean some people might think of trance as being ancient drum beats, others might think it's hypnotic rhythmns and trippy synth lines repeated over and over, still others might think of it as highly melodic and uplifting, transcendent music that is euphoric and ethereal sounding. It COULD be all of these, because within the Trance genre there are stuff that is more percussive, like tribal trance/house and even some psy trance, hypnotic/trippy like a good number of psy trance tunes are as well as tech, acid and hard and even some progressive, and of course the transcendent sound heard in a lot of melodic progressive, ibizean or chill (ambient...breakbeat trance whatever you want to call it??) trance (like old chicane) and epic trance music.

I used to think that trance was just the first two back when I first got into the music, but over time as it has grown on me and became my most favorite type of music, has it's definition changed a little. I started to see where trance could apply to a good majority of the music I listened to that was transcedent, meaning it makes you feel like your in some other world or of being connected, really good for conjuring up images in your head. It's just stuff you can put on, chill to and just dream to. Takes you on a trip basically, so in a way I would even consider music by Enigma to be trance (trancy?), because of it's transcedent and highly emotional atmosphere. Hence trance = transcedent. The first two can most definitely be thought of this way as well, but I personally find music that is highly melodic, with layers and a euphoric atmosphere to be the most transcedent to me when I just chill to it at home... that other stuff works great on the dancefloor dancing to it, but I personally wouldn't just sit down and listen to it on a daily basis at home.

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The definition of trance music has been pretty standardised in it's 15 or so years as a concept. Generally, I've always taken trance to imply rhythmic complexity and repetitiveness.

In my opinion, uplifting is trance that marries these two concepts with sharp increases in musical energy. A lot of prog trance up even to now can be considered uplifting in this sense.

A song that I would label as not uplifting is definitely Atmos - Klein Aber Doctor. The energy builds up extremely slowly in that one, and the only sharp changes in intensity actually drop the energy level. In fact, a lot of early psy trance was like that, and there's still a lot of psy out there that builds incredibly slowly.

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