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djsphere
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he truly deserves his no.1 spot.


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thanks for the link
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download link does not work , can anyone reup it ?

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As a classical musician, this was actually quite dissapointing. The worst thing about it was the arrangements and the orchestration. They are not well thought out at all. The added second melody voices really take away from what the original tracks are all about: simple, minimal but effectively uplifting music. The orchestra performance sounds rather uninspired, some whole sections came in late and even tuning was subpar. It's a German orchestra for God's sake! I know that this wasn't the Berlin Philharmonic, but I expected much higher quality anyway....

The orchestra version for Tenshi is much, much better, and I didn't really like that one much either.


Back to this concert, I didn't understand why they never used timpani and other percussion instruments to simulate the very basic beat pattern and give the compositions the energetic drive that they need so much to be successful.

Not to mention the singing, damn. That woman was singing in a soulful style over NBY! That is the exact opposite style of singing that the original voice intends to convey.


Oh well, I know from personal experience that this type of crossover is not easy to do. The reason why Tiësto didn't do this for TiC 1 as planned was that it was turning out as crap...it is THAT hard. Hopefully if PvD plans to do this in the future he'll get a better composer and orchestra for the arrangements.

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b i n k u n
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Originally posted by Pio Hopefully if PvD plans to do this in the future he'll get a better composer and orchestra for the arrangements.


what i'm curious about is if pvd DID compose the arrangements himself...he is classically trained tho if i remember correctly.


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dj jasonF
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^^^ i think he did... you can tell from the poor quality.

and maybe pvd wanted the vocals this way? i mean wouldnt he tell them to stfu and sing how he wants?

but i agree, i hope he will do it again, with better composition. most of these original tracks have nothing but 1-2 main melodies and maybe vocals.. it is really hard to make an orchesta version of them.

abx next time maybe.

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they say in the interviews that the live gig in front of that audience was actually the third time at all pvd and that orchestra played together (incl. rehearsal!)... they say too that they are planning to do more concerts like this and are willing to get constantly better

in my opinion, the first three tracks are not sounding very good, but after that, it is much better. yeah, the vocalists are different, but i liked it.

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95% to go cant wait.
been reading mixed shit but whether im gonna like it or not we wants it.


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did someone say where this was performed ??


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did someone say where this was performed ??


in berlin

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Originally posted by b i n k u n
what i'm curious about is if pvd DID compose the arrangements himself...he is classically trained tho if i remember correctly.


Whoever did the arrangements didn't do them well enough. It doesn't matter if he's classically trained or not, the ability to do orchestration and arrangements is a specialized skill that must be developed with a lot of work and practice. I have a hunch that PvD did this with someone else that notated the music, and that other person doesn't really understand trance. I would've kept the harmonic progressions in their original, simple level. All these semi-improv second voices are not really working, they're just changing the intent and vibe of the compositions.

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as someone who likes a bit of classical (not really all that into it, but could easily sit and listen to it)

im enjoying what im hearing so far.


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