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Originally posted by Purple I always thought Africa was a country for animals only... thats what they show on Discover Channel.

Oh, you are right about that. Never question the Discovery Channel. Africa is filled with only animals, and of the fiercest kind. The worst being my nemesis, Nkono Mbutetu. Nkono is the wildest monster you've ever seen in your life. He strikes fear in the hearts of men with abs of steel and sagging pants of parachute. With his sawed-off AK-47 he will gun you down without a second thought for the old blind woman walking in front of you. His do-rag shirt adds extra sleekness to his viperous appearance. Here he is, the fearsome Nkono Mbutetu, practicing an attack stance he learned from MTV Video Jamz, in front of him (out of picture) a brick wall with a baby painted on it:

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Originally posted by Enmotecontrol practicing an attack stance he learned from MTV Video Jamz, in front of him (out of picture) a brick wall with a baby painted on it:

i think DMX movies contributed more to that attack stance

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I find it pretty ironic that some of you are calling the whiners 'arrogant' or 'narrow-minded'. What criticism I've seen is of ego-inflated elitists who post in threads bashing other people's opinions, claiming to be the know all and end all of everything that is trance music, and anyone who disagrees or has slightly different tastes is automatically an idiot. If those people could just suggest tracks in a polite fashion and without acting all superior to everyone, then we wouldn't have any problems. The input they give is much appreciated - it's their arrogance and closed-mindedness that isn't.

Good to see that even a serious thread about this can devolve into a discussion on Africa. Case in point. Good job, MD.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 There aren't any real elite people on this board, everyone is on the same level.

Ha, I remember when Dave Piazza returned from the wilderness, having discovered Ishkur's guide. He proceeded to utterly reverse his previous opinions and attack everyone on the basis that ASOT isn't real trance. I called him a dick for being so pathetic, and so he started saying "this is what happens when a trance cracker is shown overwhelming proof" over and over, even though I hadn't made any comment about ASOT, or indeed ever listened to the damn thing.

So yeah... some people will act like complete dicks as soon as they move out of their "everything is good" stage and into the "only small sub-genre X is good" stage.

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Originally posted by UWM Good to see that even a serious thread about this can devolve into a discussion on Africa. Case in point. Good job, MD.

Yeah, but at least it's funny.

On topic:

I agree with what Floorfiller is saying. Although I don't know nearly as much as some people on this board, I have been visiting here for a while now. Years ago, I would spend lots of time reading MD, obviously because most of the topics interested me. Before, I would depend on MD to discover pretty much all of my new music. My tastes changed and I consider a lot of what I used to like as crap with some nostalgic value. Now I'm exploring just as much if not more new music than I did back then and I get very few of my ideas from MD.

there's a name i hadn't seen in a while...

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 I find that each person here tends to specialize in their own thing, and each person is here for a different reason. It used to be that most were mp3 hunters, everyone was listing tracks to paste into napster or posting audiogalaxy links, everyone was watching the streams and collecting all the releases and memorizing track names and identifying them in sets. Some kids would latch onto one artist and know everything there was to know about that person, other kids would be into less popular genres or music from different eras in history or hundreds of other things...so even though a lot of people have grown to think of me as elitist...i still contribute positively when a genuine interest is there... Then there were the kids who just liked to chat, to find like-minded people, to pick the brains of kids all over the planet, some kids enjoy arguing, some are just curious explorers of various topics. I'm just saying this because it seems like alot of you think the only purpose of this place it the hunt for tunes and talk the buzz surrounding the international headliner DJ's. But there is alot more going on here than that, I don't think very many people are going to miss one person ceasing to post stuff. Anyone can go on a google adventure and find tunes to talk about or visit a record shop, there are not very many kids whos musical satisfaction depends mostly on the contributions of 'elitists'. There aren't any real elite people on this board, everyone is on the same level. Some kids have really big egos that make them feel surperior and some feel like they have to climb the ranks somehow but there really isn't any sort of ranking system here besides the fucking post count. Each and every person here is worth the same, everyone has unique insights and a unique set of music that is available to them. What makes this place a valuable resource is the exchange of those unique things that each person has. If all the kids who consider themselves elitists just stop then new ones will emerge, nobody here is truly elite and irreplacable, anyone who has been here very long has seen enough "elitists" come and go to realize that.

well said...

and of course i'm not trying to suggest that TA is going to fall apart if i alone was to stop posting or something...

i'm just saying that a lot of people that are thought to be elitist here are the very people that spend the most time talking about music. its just disheartening and frustrating...hell i'm pissed off about a lot of stuff on this site and last couple of days i was giving good suggestions and links to samples for some n00b kid that was looking for a particular sound. that sure was elitist of me...

and of course TA is about much more than talking about music and talk about the dj's...because it does go well beyond that, but also TA is segmented into sections to attempt to focus conversations into certain directions. of course MD is the main section of the site, but it should mostly serve that purpose. and there is nothing wrong with debate or arguing about things...i don't really think that's where the frustration comes from...

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Originally posted by Aquarian I find it pretty ironic that some of you are calling the whiners 'arrogant' or 'narrow-minded'. What criticism I've seen is of ego-inflated elitists who post in threads bashing other people's opinions, claiming to be the know all and end all of everything that is trance music, and anyone who disagrees or has slightly different tastes is automatically an idiot. If those people could just suggest tracks in a polite fashion and without acting all superior to everyone, then we wouldn't have any problems. The input they give is much appreciated - it's their arrogance and closed-mindedness that isn't.

maybe you haven't been here long enough to notice, but that is not where arrogance and narrow-minded posting stems from. it's completely reactionary.

it's frustration built up and then turned into anger. all of this for the most part starts with people posting in the music discussion with a lack of interest in TA besides their own self promotion or frustration with people that seem to not care enough to take time and search for some information. instead they post once asking for track suggestions and then are never heard from again.

i think that's what really started all of the attacking and bashing in here.



anyway, i was thinking about all of this on the drive to work today and i kinda came to the conclusion that you're either part of the problem, the solution, or not a part of it. so i guess my little TA resolution this year will maybe be trying to get back to the real reasons i like posting MD, music and discussion. and maybe some people will feel similar. historically i've been one of the friendliest and most helpful members of this site and that has kind of changed over the last year...and i don't necessarily like that...so i guess i'm either going to start posting more meaningful posts in MD or just not post at all. i don't think it'll really change anything because i honestly don't think many of the people complaining really care about tranceaddict.

I know I don't.

Over the time i've been a member here and some months before when i was just a reader, i have noticed alot of changes in the overall feel of this place from a friendly community to a rather hostile warzone where pretty much everything not asked by and about "the big ones in the scene" gets bashed to pieces. We all were in the same situation once than those who seek for info and new tunes to listen so we should understand their point of views too instead of "you suck, go home to cry" kind of replies. Except when the thread starters/posters are just plain stupid and don't know what's good for them.

I don't post that much nowadays because there are only a very little number of interesting subjects and my real life has taken more of my time than it did some years ago. I still hope the good vibe of TA returns some day but until then i'll rather remain in the background and bother only with those who really are in need and don't know any other way to do things. Even if i like to help out people in distress and need, seems that most of the people wanting and posting about something for info, are just way too lazy and can't be arsed to do a few secs of googling or using the TA search (which works very well when you learn to use it properly; to those who always say they tried but didn't find anything).

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