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Originally posted by Ishkur I'll just cutnpaste what I said before, since these conversations recycle themselves: It's because the novelty of trance music has worn off on you after listening to so many hundreds of sets, so many DJs, and its all meshing into a "been there, done that" feeling. The rollercoaster is never as exciting the 500th time you go on it than it is the first time you ride on it. In short, it's because the music has no sustenance, it is cheap, shallow, and gimmicky, and you are drifting away from it because each subsequent use is not giving you the same high as before, so to speak. You are burning out. My advice: go away. Move on, and listen to something else for awhile.

I so wanted to say exactly what you said above. It's like you've read my mind. I've said it before and will say it again. Sadly, trance has become whiny, sad, very boring and music sounds like people who make it take themselves all too seriously.

as an aspiring producer, I find it hard(er) to make something decent because you have to come up with original ideas - something that jumps out at you. I also drew parallels in trance to pr0n = the more pr0n you see, the less you are excited by seeing the same 'ol thing. Same with trance (at least for me) - just plain' ol trance don't do it. I need some musical hardcore to get turned on.

What we have today is "disposable music". You listen to it 3 - 5 times and you might as well throw it out. Sadly, not too many "classics" have been made lately.

How many tracks can compare with sheer energy and excitement of these classics:

BBE - 7 Days and 1 week
Bedrock - Heaven Scent
Solar Stone - 7th city
The Quest - C Sharp
System F - Out of the blue
AvB - Communication
Binary Finary - 1999/2000

Even tho some of them have been worn to death, dusted off, repackaged and re-edited and brought back to scrape up whatever hasn't been scraped up first time around, I can listen to that stuff nonstop.

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Um... I think 'progressive trance 2005/6' is what straight 'trance' in the golden era was (ie the Heaven Scent's/For An Angel's etc)

Trance is now interchangeable with ASOT. Which is interchangeable with utter crap.

The 'top tracks of 2005' are basically all complete rubbish! Which is either cos the wrong labels now get the recognition and were far better and promoting themselves and the artists than selecting decent music, or cos there really are no good tracks being made anymore.

I will say I have SERIOUSLY fallen in love with Love Theme Dusk, gorgeous! And Zocolo is great too... there's still some gems out there!

I've been getting the feeling that Trance has been coming to a head in the mainstream market and we're bound to have meshes and bad creations of trance music (and bad is quite arguable in this case). Overall I think it's been pretty good, obviously with bad points i can't remember of right now (other than I know a few CD compilations i've listened to were pegged as trance and were far from it i.e. this one DJ who "has just broken from the dance scene into the trance scene" and boy, this guy really needs to shed his Dance skin 'cause the whole CD was pure Dance still lol).

Overall it's been pretty good although the mass commercialization of a few artists will inevitably harm the genre after it's done its help (again this is arguable). Hopefully the budding artists and more localized/less over mainstreamed artists will see what's happening in terms of negative reprecussions and will avoid the mistakes their predecessors and some of their equals are/will make.

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when i find good tracks, trance is sounding better.

however, with each passing year, those tracks becoming harder and harder to find.

between end of october to today, i may have been excited about 3 tracks at the most!

its pretty bad...iv done a lot of dabbling with breaks and house, and even a little drum and bass as a result.

but when that one track comes around, its awesome. Track 4 in Precisions True to Trance jan 06 set is an example. Prior to that, you have to go back to oct for me to find an exciting track

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i dont really listening to trance anymore , i went back to early rave, hardcore, darkcore , hardstyle.

I know lots of people think harder styles of dance music is just a noise but its not cheese as the new trance

this is just me but if anyone's interested in listening to some good, relatively new trance (minus one or two tracks on the CD), then check out Trip in Trance 4 (can't say much about Trip in Trance 5 since I don't own it yet). I found that Rank 1 did an excellent job mixing the majority of the songs i.e. Sandler - Theme Song, Kenny Hayes - Daybreakers (Airbase mix), etc. (check out www.hibias.ca). I know it's a bit biased but that might rekindle some interest

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Originally posted by sshyperion this is just me but if anyone's interested in listening to some good, relatively new trance (minus one or two tracks on the CD), then check out Trip in Trance 4 (can't say much about Trip in Trance 5 since I don't own it yet). I found that Rank 1 did an excellent job mixing the majority of the songs i.e. Sandler - Theme Song, Kenny Hayes - Daybreakers (Airbase mix), etc. (check out www.hibias.ca). I know it's a bit biased but that might rekindle some interest

Or just read this.


As for the state of trance these days? Eh, the psy scene's definitely worth checking out again for those clamouring for the good ol' pre-anthem styled trance. A lot of it seems to have hunkered down in the psy camp when it was rejected by the mainstream acts.

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It can't become much worse, i'm afraid.

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Originally posted by Radagast It can't become much worse, i'm afraid.

Trust me, as long as Tiesto has access to recording equipment - IT CAN!

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Its plagued by recycled production techniques and lazy composition without any innovation or attempts to change its direction.
Thats why its has become like Ishkur's proverbial rollercoaster; a few times around and you get bored because you know whats coming....

Who can save it? Sounds like a job for Duffman!

personally it's been getting worse as the years go by.

occasionally however, there is always that one or two (or more ) diamond out of the rough that puts faith back into the genre.

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Mike Shiver & Elevation feat. Carrie Skipper - Hurricane (Mike Shiver Mix)
Mark Otten - Tranquility
Introvert - 5am Illusions (Original Mix)
Orchid - Technicolour
Jiva - My Dream (Original Mix)
Mindscope - Awake

IMO is going to shit. Everythings getting monotonous and formulaic, and theres little or no innovation.

All the harder DJs seem to be switching to house (MarcoV, even Picotto from his latest Meganite set) and the scene seems to be dividing. Rather than being called 'trance', its going like 'tracks Armin would play', 'tracks PVD would play' etc. People arent making tracks for the sake of it, theyre making tracks for their DJ to play. Which is creating a lot of shit and dividing the industry.

On the plus, psy and prog-psy are on fire at the moment

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