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Originally posted by Jayx1 So they will talk to some black pastor from boston who got paid to make a speech and nothing more yet they wont talk to a bunch of guys who are willing to take a hands on approach that has worked in 20 other countries?

The difference being that Rev. (forgot his name already... someone help me out)'s solution will be one that the city can spearhead. If it works the city counsel looks good. The Guardian Angels are a group overwhich the counsel will have no influance. Subsequently, the city does not want to see them involved as if they have a noteable impact it will be egg on the face of the city and the TPS.

I think such ego in matters of this importance is reprehensible, however, that is the reason for the current situation.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard The difference being that Rev. (forgot his name already... someone help me out)'s solution will be one that the city can spearhead. If it works the city counsel looks good. The Guardian Angels are a group overwhich the counsel will have no influance. Subsequently, the city does not want to see them involved as if they have a noteable impact it will be egg on the face of the city and the TPS. I think such ego in matters of this importance is reprehensible, however, that is the reason for the current situation.

i understand the reasoning..

im not implying that this is actually a racist act nor would have been had it been reversed. Im just stating what is in fact a huge hypcrisy in our society.

The same situation when applied differently is in one case a matter of pride as it is now, and in another would be a racial thing according to the black community.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

also a sad irony is that the canadian government only issued the guardian angles a 3 day visa and they have to leave.

Meanwhile 50 cent can come and go as he pleases..


A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT CANT COME SOON ENOUGH

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy bah ill stay ignorant on the issue and keep the image i have of them now with british police hats and and billy clubs running around to benny hill music

Bahahaha good old Benny Hill.

I say good

these people care about the community they are "patrolling" and hopefully people in that community wil welcome and accept it. I doubt they will get "shot at" etc, as they are unarmed and should just be there for a presence.

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Originally posted by MarkT I dont' know enough about them to say it's "good" or "bad"...but I do respect their ideals and efforts...just not sure how they will be received in 2006. Rather than "policing", their goal seems to be more to educate, raise awareness, and get people involved in the community instead of ignoring the problems occuring in their own neighbourhoods.

You hit the nail on the head!!!

curtis sliwa, angels head honcho, was told if he wanted to meet with police he had to go through the mayors office...he tried for over two weeks to arrange meetings with the mayor and police officials and was ignored...

guardian angels safety programs are now required courses in both the new york and new jersey school systems...

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Originally posted by torontobarfly curtis sliwa, angels head honcho, was told if he wanted to meet with police he had to go through the mayors office...he tried for over two weeks to arrange meetings with the mayor and police officials and was ignored...

Do you have a source on that TBF?

Not that I don't find that surprising (he's been denied a couple times before)...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Do you have a source on that TBF? Not that I don't find that surprising (he's been denied a couple times before)...

cp24 story

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Originally posted by torontobarfly cp24 story

ah, thanks!!

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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."