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Originally posted by swilly I love how you can contradict yourself in one sentence. St clair is a small part of downtown toronto. Thus they are a small group in the larger city, so we would be doing exactly what you said we should not be doing. Also how you can you claim the whole community was against it? Just because there was one organization representing the some of the store owners and some of the community members does not mean the whole community was against it. I used to live up there and i was all for it. I could of got to the st clair subway stop far faster. Does not matter now as it is going through anyways hahahha swilly san

seems to me that a large group of people who live and do business righ on the proposed right of way are opposed. But this notwithstanding, the idea is a bad one any way you look at it. Especially in light of this city's so called financial crisis.

why are you so happy that this is going through? Is saving 2 minutes travel time really worth this huge expense and possible lost business?

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Honestly, what does it matter how expensive it is? The money's already taxed from you, it's not like the gov't is gonna go, "oh well we decided against this expensive project, here is your $1000 back, enjoy."

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Honestly, what does it matter how expensive it is? The money's already taxed from you, it's not like the gov't is gonna go, "oh well we decided against this expensive project, here is your $1000 back, enjoy."

no actually it hasnt been taxed from you. In fact, its directly because of the "financial crisis" that taxes are going UP and TTC fares are going UP. So yes my friend, decisions like this DO cost you money DIRECTLY.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Something tells me the government would just find another reason to raise the taxes.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 they shoudl turn queen st into a pedestrian street...

I would *love* to see that...widen the sidewalks and still have streetcar, municipal and emergency vehicles be the only traffic allowed. Transit access should keep businesses happy, though I suspect 95% of their business is walk-up and not people parking a car out front anyway.

we already have multi-lane one-way routes closeby (Richmond and Adelaide) that are arguably underused during non-peak hours, with King. St. having regular traffic flow too. There's no need to have the gridlock we have 24/7 on Queen St with regular traffic, the TTC and people trying to cross the street.

a near pedestrian-only Queen St. would be an *amazing* revitilization project for the area!

in other transit news....mississauga bus fare rises from $2.25 to $2.50...fucking awesome

I'm all for keeping and expanding streetcar service on most major transit corridors. Look at the wonders it did on Spadina one of the most vibrant sreets in Toronto. I don't think St. Clair is the right street for a right of way. Maybe bring back service of the Bathurst streetcar north of Bloor Street to St. Clair West Station??? Yeah right like that'll ever happen.

Or hears another idea but some new streetcars!!! Fuck they're practically ancient lol

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Originally posted by Truepioneer I'm all for keeping and expanding streetcar service on most major transit corridors. Look at the wonders it did on Spadina one of the most vibrant sreets in Toronto. I don't think St. Clair is the right street for a right of way. Maybe bring back service of the Bathurst streetcar north of Bloor Street to St. Clair West Station??? Yeah right like that'll ever happen. Or hears another idea but some new streetcars!!! Fuck they're practically ancient lol

considering the type of buses the ttc has, the streetcars are still new in comparison.

now if they only got some of these kind of streetcars




they kinda look like VIVA type vehicles with the blue paint

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Originally posted by smuncky considering the type of buses the ttc has, the streetcars are still new in comparison. now if they only got some of these kind of streetcars they kinda look like VIVA type vehicles with the blue paint

They're probably made by the same Belgian manufacturer.

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Originally posted by Möbius They're probably made by the same Belgian manufacturer.

actually they are made my Bombardier. the ones in the above pictures are operated in Kassel, Germany.

looking at their site, they have some really nice designs for the europeans...too bad they can't be done here

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