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Originally posted by Moongoose You are not big on second chances are you? A woman makes one mistake and she has to pay for it for the rest of her life then? Im sure the kid will have a wery nice life with a single mother that cant support him and resents him for being born, or maybe he will get lucky and get to spend his entire childhood in an orphanage, but hey thats not your problem anymore right?

The kid should have a nice life, because Kapeden is going to do his part and be foster parent.

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Originally posted by Kapedan I think thats a great reasons, was that the only option for it? I can make some acceptions for abortions, but most of them I dont believe. Just cus some bitched got knocked on her party, while drunk, etc etc, doesnt make a good exuse to have an abortion, idiot liberals want to allow anything in this country.

Im glad your not running for any political position. In your world, I could just see a women battling her rapist in court for child custody, visitation & child support payments.

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Originally posted by Kapedan I think thats a great reasons, was that the only option for it? I can make some acceptions for abortions, but most of them I dont believe. Just cus some bitched got knocked on her party, while drunk, etc etc, doesnt make a good exuse to have an abortion, idiot liberals want to allow anything in this country.

I agree, most rapes wouldn't happen today if women these days werent acting like a whores, trying to act like Brittney Spears & laughing at family values. Anyway, any women could then say she got raped and thus have an abortion.

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Originally posted by ProudRepublican I agree, most rapes wouldn't happen today if women these days werent acting like a whores, trying to act like Brittney Spears & laughing at family values. Anyway, any women could then say she got raped and thus have an abortion.

hmm... I assume women who go clubbing are "whores" in your view, because they aren't good housewives sitting at home rearing children?

In that case: What the hell are you doing on a Club/EDM-related board? You just registered here to spew forth your hate? Go to some other forums more closely suited to your pursuits

By the way: You give a bad name to the word "Republicans". I would assume most Republicans here, including Shakka, Q1Echo, etc., would be embarassed to be associated with the likes of you.

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Originally posted by Moongoose You are not big on second chances are you? A woman makes one mistake and she has to pay for it for the rest of her life then? Im sure the kid will have a wery nice life with a single mother that cant support him and resents him for being born, or maybe he will get lucky and get to spend his entire childhood in an orphanage, but hey thats not your problem anymore right?

Its not that im not big on second chances, what I'm trying to say is that all these "mistakes" that these women make, most of them time they will make again. I dont know the statistics for abortions in America, but I assume most of them come from low income homes. Why would we want to give them a second chance? If we do that, then they will go and do it again, in fact not having an abortion and taking care of the child will help them change thier view on how serious this thing is, rather then them making this mistake again, and guess what they will say, the same thing they said on the first time.

Sure, everyone deserves a second chance. Doesnt the baby deserve a life?

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd hmm... I assume women who go clubbing are "whores" in your view, because they aren't good housewives sitting at home rearing children? In that case: What the hell are you doing on a Club/EDM-related board? You just registered here to spew forth your hate? Go to some other forums more closely suited to your pursuits By the way: You give a bad name to the word "Republicans". I would assume most Republicans here, including Shakka, Q1Echo, etc., would be embarassed to be associated with the likes of you.

I dont get it with you. He didnt say anything bad. Women nowdays are whores, and most of them time abortions are taken by these women who have sex with any men out there. Why dont you live in reality? Thats your problem.

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Originally posted by Kapedan I dont get it with you. He didnt say anything bad. Women nowdays are whores, and most of them time abortions are taken by these women who have sex with any men out there. Why dont you live in reality? Thats your problem.

so, you have personally met at least 51% of the world's women have you? and youve had time to adequately judge their lifestyle and determine whether they are \"whores\" or not? as well as having access to all their confidential medical records as well as reasoning behind their decision to abort, assuming they have made that decision?

where exactly do you feel you have gained the authority to tell women what to do with their body?

you are an ignorant child

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Originally posted by Kapedan I think thats a great reasons, was that the only option for it? I can make some acceptions for abortions, but most of them I dont believe. Just cus some bitched got knocked on her party, while drunk, etc etc, doesnt make a good exuse to have an abortion, idiot liberals want to allow anything in this country.

So you and ProudIdiot should answer my question. Should a rapist have parental & custody rights to the child born of his rape? What should be done about child support payments?

Everything is black & white simple in the Neo Conservative world, but it's not that way in the real world.

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Originally posted by Shamen DJ's So you and ProudIdiot should answer my question. Should a rapist have parental & custody rights to the child born of his rape? What should be done about child support payments? Everything is black & white simple in the Neo Conservative world, but it's not that way in the real world.

Yes, if the mother doesnt want the baby, she should put it for adoption and the baby should have the right to live. Like I said, the only exeption is if it causes the death of another person, the mother in this case. I stand by that. Call me a neo con or not, I could give a shit less what you call me.

Coming from a liberal, I kind of find it ironic that your saying that .

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN so, you have personally met at least 51% of the world's women have you? and youve had time to adequately judge their lifestyle and determine whether they are \"whores\" or not? as well as having access to all their confidential medical records as well as reasoning behind their decision to abort, assuming they have made that decision? where exactly do you feel you have gained the authority to tell women what to do with their body? you are an ignorant child

I can always assume, like I said above I dont have any statistics. But im sure many abortions are from whores that have no morals in most cases.

I am really not suprised by the ignorance of Neo Conservatives considering the comments of their religious leader Pat Robertson.
Some of Pat Robertsons comments are:

1) "NOW ( National Organization for Women ) is saying that in order to be a woman, you've got to be a lesbian". ( The 700 Club 12/3/97 )

2) "I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man - your husband. Christ is the head of the household & the husband is the head of the wife, and thats the way it is period.
( The 700 Club 1/8/92 )

3) "The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism & become lesbians". ( 1992 fundraising letter )

4) "Planned parenthood is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism - everything that the bible condemns. ( 700 Club 4/9/91 )

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They all love bribes and run after gifts
They never defend orphans
They dont notice the widows pleas

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Originally posted by Kapedan Yes, if the mother doesnt want the baby, she should put it for adoption and the baby should have the right to live. Like I said, the only exeption is if it causes the death of another person, the mother in this case. I stand by that. Call me a neo con or not, I could give a shit less what you call me. Coming from a liberal, I kind of find it ironic that your saying that .

Answer my question. If a child is conceived by rape, do you think the father should be able to go to court to get parental rights for that child? Shouldn't the fact that that womans been raped be enough for her to go through?.

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They dont notice the widows pleas

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