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sthus
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra,Australia

Personally i loved the album,
these days you find loads of shit albums and i don't think that there are actually that many as good as this one.

I mean i can't actually see which tracks you really dont like that much, stacks of poeple i introduce to this love it.

if i sruvive, beachcoma, finished symphony, snyper were all wicked and to this day i still can't get enough.

As for the wider angle bonus disc, it has burnin' which is awesome and i love accelerator, probably one fo my favourite tracks.

Give us a couple examples of which of the tracks you don't like and don't say all of them.


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Old Post Mar-30-2006 23:49  Australia
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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by sthus
Give us a couple examples of which of the tracks you don't like and don't say all of them.


I didn't say that I disliked any of the tracks- I said that I didn't think it was as good as has been made out.


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Prior to purchasing Wider Angle, the only Hybrid productions I had heard were their remixes of Café del Mar and Papua New Guinea. I shit you not. I bought this album because it had been widely praised, without any knowledge of what it would sound like. I fucking ordered it on import on Amazon, and sat there for six weeks waiting until some cock in the US cancelled it and I had to find it in HMV. Does that sound like the actions of someone who just downloaded it so he could rip into it, and then cast it away? No. It doesn't.

What kind of an idiot buys an album based on what other people think of it anyway?


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Old Post Mar-31-2006 03:43  Finland
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Pointy
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Its all different opinion - you say Leftfields debut was the beezneez.. well i like the album, but i call that over-rated! Same goes with Way Out West's debut - some absolute fucking killer tunes, but on a whole i find the latter part of the albums just plain n boring.

With Hybrid, the rave reviews (from people who first heard it around 1999) came from the strings n the totally original style of breaks - crazy triplets n effects... There's so much attention to detail with that album that i was discovering all these lil things long after a bought it. Its such a solid production with such a wide range of styles - some bangers, some chilled, some 4/4, one even on a slight hiphop note. 'Dreaming Your Dreams' would probably be my favourite on the album yet i didn't "get it" straight away.

I dunno, maybe give it a chance, listen to it as background music, play it up loud, play it the car...just dont skip through tunes - cos you might just find they're better than first perceived

ps: the vocals dont do much for me either (cept for dreaming my dreams and sinequanon).

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vinnie97
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Well, I could tell you to do the same for WOW's debut, which also offers something new on repeated listens...also, that album contains "The Gift," which was a fluid combination of trance, house and breakbeats...pretty revolutionary for its time.

Meneedit, "King of the Funk" is the mut's nuts...one of my faves. Rock n' Roll meets some filthy chunky breaks. I've been waiting for them to do more in this vein since that time..

PS. Hybrid confining an orchestral piece into a breakbeat sequence does a disservice to orchestral music everywhere and it's simply a gimmick. A much better utilization of electronic versus orchestra can be found on Tipper's album, Surrounded, where the 2 complement one another instead of one yielding to the other.

Also, it's rather funny but "Symphony" actually liberally samples a an older classical piece that I discovered years after Hybrid's rendition...which just reinforces my "Hooked on Bach" comment from before.

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Old Post Mar-31-2006 04:44  United States
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Ian
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Prior to purchasing Wider Angle, the only Hybrid productions I had heard were their remixes of Café del Mar and Papua New Guinea. I shit you not. I bought this album because it had been widely praised, without any knowledge of what it would sound like. I fucking ordered it on import on Amazon, and sat there for six weeks waiting until some cock in the US cancelled it and I had to find it in HMV. Does that sound like the actions of someone who just downloaded it so he could rip into it, and then cast it away? No. It doesn't.


that doesn't no, but my point (in the end) i think was good. How many of us can nowadays just dl something before deciding whether to buy, whereas in the times I started buying music, it was hit & miss, you had to buy it or take recommendations off other people and hope that they had a similar taste to you. I miss those days, the days of surprise, as it was way more fulfilling to hear something on a tape or cd & continually rewind to hear it again. It's been spoilt forever in that instant. The problem with doing what you did, was you listened to the opinions of others, and let that build up some sort of hope. For many this hope was fulfilled, for you, it wasn't, that doesn't change the actual quality of it at all, just your subjective opinions.

In an era where there is way too much negativity about things that were popular in a past time, whether or not it was because they genuinely don't like them, they liked them & now see it's cool to not like them, or they just plain want to antagonise people with their opinions, it's hard to tell what is done out of spite & what is actually constructive. Opinions are dead, Ishkur killed them.

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sthus
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Thats fucking rubbish, damn straight, you could ask the guy at the cd shop to play it for you before you purchased what you wanted to buy so what you're saying is just trash.

Big ups to pointy tho, i appreciate hybrid for many of the same reasons. I found that they changed how i viewed music as a whole, they didnt stick to one thing and had variations in the type of tracks they produced.

As for way out west's debut being not that great, no way, absolutely loved it, can't get enough of it even till this day, the tracks are pretty crazy and before i fail to mention this, i love tipper so cheers for mentioning, i'ma listen to some tipper now


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im shocked and appauled that people even dare utter that this album is overrated. Its by far the most innovative, insightful and complete breaks LP ever, and imo does indeed rank right up there with Leftism. It seems to me that if people dont like the manner in which Hybrid used the vocals on this album then they automatically dismiss it. I could say the same thing about Leftfield and their use of John Lydon's vocals or Afrika Bambaataa, but it wouldnt detract anything from the fact those tracks are still class, as is the entire Wider Angle album.


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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by sthus
Thats fucking rubbish, damn straight, you could ask the guy at the cd shop to play it for you before you purchased what you wanted to buy so what you're saying is just trash.

Big ups to pointy tho, i appreciate hybrid for many of the same reasons. I found that they changed how i viewed music as a whole, they didnt stick to one thing and had variations in the type of tracks they produced.

As for way out west's debut being not that great, no way, absolutely loved it, can't get enough of it even till this day, the tracks are pretty crazy and before i fail to mention this, i love tipper so cheers for mentioning, i'ma listen to some tipper now


that never happened where I used to buy from, you just had to take a chance on it.

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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
What kind of an idiot buys an album based on what other people think of it anyway?


Eh? So I'm supposed to just sit there and wait until I come across a track on it before buying? Bullshit. I'd liked what Hybrid I had heard, and after so many rave reviews I thought it was well worth owning, if only to fill a gap in my collection. I know loads of people (as Ian's just demonstrated) who enjoy buying blind, on being surprised by new sounds. I'm not saying that I wasted my money on the fucking thing, but the term "over-rated" is something directly linked to the common consensus on something. I didn't think it was as good as many people obviously do. So sue me for having my own bloody opinion.


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Old Post Mar-31-2006 16:36  England
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
So sue me for having my own bloody opinion.


You'll be hearing from my lawyers soon.


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Numidia
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Registered: Oct 2005
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Never heard wider angle.. but i did heard their more recent album.. called "perfect midnight" i think or something to that effect. I thought it was brilliant i was blown away the whole listen through. so well produced


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