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Originally posted by digitul punk Well in that case Jesus was a pussy and he was gay..

wow. He was a pussy because He did not advocate violence against those who did not agree with Him?? He was gay because he did not have wives?? i dont see how that follows my logic of : "muhammed was a murderer because he killed his enemies"

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Note here that I'm only mocking your logic and by no way am I disrespecting your religion..

i simply stated facts from various sources about the actions of muhammed, such as killing, raiding, many different wives, all immoral acts, and that is the founder of islam!

hate website? its a website for people who have left islam partly because they realized who the founder was. those were just historical facts, muslim scholars can deny or excuse them all they want.

The thing with faith is, since it doesn't really have any substance itself, it has a way of taking the shape of whatever container your pour it into.

The problem is not Islam, it is the individuals themselves.

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Originally posted by sponger wow. He was a pussy because He did not advocate violence against those who did not agree with Him?? He was gay because he did not have wives?? i dont see how that follows my logic of : "muhammed was a murderer because he killed his enemies" i simply stated facts from various sources about the actions of muhammed, such as killing, raiding, many different wives, all immoral acts, and that is the founder of islam! hate website? its a website for people who have left islam partly because they realized who the founder was. those were just historical facts, muslim scholars can deny or excuse them all they want.

Okay so you are gonna believe a bunch of people who got online and claimed to be ex-muslims and started posted all kinds of random shit that you and them both like to call "FACTS" instead of referring to an Islamic author or a scholar who have basically spent most of their lives doing what they do.. which happens to be research?

And on top of that you are arguing with a Muslim about his religion and calling his FACTS bullshit... ignorance really must be a bliss to you.

And to those who care.. checkout "No God But God" by Reza Aslan - He was featured on Bill Mahr recently and this book looks really promising not to forget the fact that it's got really good reviews.
http://www.rezaaslan.com/

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That's because all those muslims facts ARE bullshit. how can you still defend muhamad being a prophet with all the shit from his life? lol. at least they should've removed all that from texts like Jesus late teens and 20's, that way the image of holyness is there.

but nope, let's leave it all in there so if one looks deep enough he sees it to be a satan worshiping faith.

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Originally posted by Lepanto That's because all those muslims facts ARE bullshit. how can you still defend muhamad being a prophet with all the shit from his life? lol. at least they should've removed all that from texts like Jesus late teens and 20's, that way the image of holyness is there. but nope, let's leave it all in there so if one looks deep enough he sees it to be a satan worshiping faith.

Dude seriously find a job or something... Your not worth my time.

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Originally posted by digitul punk Youre not worth my time.

i like you please come back often.

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Originally posted by digitul punk Okay so you are gonna believe a bunch of people who got online and claimed to be ex-muslims and started posted all kinds of random shit that you and them both like to call "FACTS" instead of referring to an Islamic author or a scholar who have basically spent most of their lives doing what they do.. which happens to be research? And on top of that you are arguing with a Muslim about his religion and calling his FACTS bullshit... ignorance really must be a bliss to you. And to those who care.. checkout "No God But God" by Reza Aslan - He was featured on Bill Mahr recently and this book looks really promising not to forget the fact that it's got really good reviews. http://www.rezaaslan.com/

do you not believe that they are ex muslims? you can't even refute the arguments they make! you even admitted it when you said this:

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No. On the contrary.. If you take a look at Muhammad's (pbuh) you'll find that he never waged a war in the name of Islam.. sure there was wars but all of them were due to the fact that people hated him for being so prosperous hence most of the wars he fought was for his own and his people's safety

so he did fight wars, killed, raided, etc.
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and as for the jewish tribe .. common are you not gonna expell a tribe out of your city because they were umm let's say... your enemies?

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True he married many women after the death of Khadija.. and wrong again.. he had 12 wives.

i mean you made my point for me. he was no where near holy! when did i say your facts were bullshit? you didnt even present any facts. as far as the "facts" go, its not just that website that says that, those are general facts of his life from different historical sources!! do muslim scholars deny the fact he fought wars and killed his enemies and that he had multiple wives? NO. They excuse those actions!

Here's your religion of peace. Let's crush kids arms for stealing bread.

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1...ed_for_Stealing

You guys still don't see the big picture. The countries that have religiously based governments don't do very well because people never agree on anything and most of their decisions are based solely on their faith rather than reason. People will always have differing views an their own interpretations on religion. Just take a look at this thread alone as an example.

Other countries who advocate religious freedom and separation between church and state are way more peaceful. Simply put don't create a government based on religion. Keep that stuff away from politics.

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Originally posted by digitul punk Dude seriously find a job or something... Your not worth my time.

yeah awesome comeback defending your dinky attempt to a claim that is both irretional and simply isn't so . BTW, you're also a dumbfuck because of the way you speak of Jesus since he's a major part of your "religion" as well

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Originally posted by Shakka Here's your religion of peace. Let's crush kids arms for stealing bread. http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1...ed_for_Stealing

k....that's fucked up...

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