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stevieboy32808
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| quote: | Originally posted by jdat
Obviously there's a difference!
Breakbeat is more 80s sounding and more prone to being used for turntablism ( that's where it came from ).
And I guess you could say breaks is a hybrid between drum and bass and breakbeat. |
Breakbeats is an offshoot of the house and hip hop scene back in the 80's, but mostly hip hop. I know it's hard to believe, but it's just as hard to believe that house music evolved from the remains of disco music. Todays house sounds nothing like disco except for the 4/4 dance beat, but I digress. To make a long story short, 80's house producers started experimenting with hip hop beats by speeding them up and adding their own elements to their track, hence a breakbeats track was born.
| quote: | Originally posted by jdat
It's not the most accurate comparision in the world but saying breaks and breakbeat are both the same is as ignorant as calling "electro" what some of the top house djs are playing these days. |
Breaks is short for breakbeats. You can read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakbeats
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Apr-05-2006 03:51
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yaryarblinks
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| quote: | Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Breakbeats is an offshoot of the house and hip hop scene back in the 80's, but mostly hip hop. I know it's hard to believe, but it's just as hard to believe that house music evolved from the remains of disco music. Todays house sounds nothing like disco except for the 4/4 dance beat, but I digress. To make a long story short, 80's house producers started experimenting with hip hop beats by speeding them up and adding their own elements to their track, hence a breakbeats track was born. |
Wow, are you wrong or what. Breakbeats comes from soul and funk music, and the drum 'break' solo that was usually in that music. A lot of these funk and soul breaks went on to be sampled later and named, one of the most famousest being the Apache and the Funky Drummer. As a descriptor, breakbeat describes the syncopated drum pattern. Boom tss, boom boom tss, boom tss, boom boom tss. As opposed to boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss. Well, you get it. The first time the breaks of funk and soul rekkids were extended to make longer tracks were in the mid to late 70's by DJ's like Kool Herc who took two copies of the same rekkid and played the break back to back from one rekkid to the other over and over. The first released breaks track is probably the first Hip Hop track. Or actually maybe a Kraftwerk track. Trans Europe Express and Man Machine are breakbeat for example. Possibly Autobahn. Most of this info is in the first paragraphs of that wikipedia link you gave. Did you even read it?
80's house producers had nothing to do with hip hop beats. And it's entirely believeable that House came from disco, as that's what Frankie Knuckles was mainly influenced by, as evidenced by what he played at the Warehouse in the 70's. Not to mention that after 1998 or so house producers began to sample disco loops extensively (hence Disco house), though one of the first to do it was Earth People in 1990.
| quote: | I mean, why are some releases labeled with breaks, some with breakbeat, and some with both?
Obviously there has to be at least the slightest difference. ^^ |
You're talking about Discogs? Discogs isn't the be all and end all of genre naming. It's run by people just like you and me, and in some ways people who know about as much as you and me. What they do on discogs is pretty much add any stupid shit that enough people moan about adding. They even put Grime in there, whatever that is.
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Apr-05-2006 10:10
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Clovis
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Location: Los Angeles
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| quote: | Originally posted by yaryarblinks
Wow, are you wrong or what. Breakbeats comes from soul and funk music, and the drum 'break' solo that was usually in that music. A lot of these funk and soul breaks went on to be sampled later and named, one of the most famousest being the Apache and the Funky Drummer. As a descriptor, breakbeat describes the syncopated drum pattern. Boom tss, boom boom tss, boom tss, boom boom tss. As opposed to boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss. Well, you get it. The first time the breaks of funk and soul rekkids were extended to make longer tracks were in the mid to late 70's by DJ's like Kool Herc who took two copies of the same rekkid and played the break back to back from one rekkid to the other over and over. The first released breaks track is probably the first Hip Hop track. Or actually maybe a Kraftwerk track. Trans Europe Express and Man Machine are breakbeat for example. Most of this info is in the first paragraphs of that wikipedia link you gave. Did you even read it?
80's house producers had nothing to do with hip hop beats. And it's entirely believeable that House came from disco, as that's what Frankie Knuckles was mainly influenced by, as evidenced by what he played at the Warehouse in the 70's. Not to mention that after 1998 or so house producers began to sample disco loops extensively (hence Disco house), though one of the first to do it was Earth People in 1990. |
OMG ITS YARYARBINKS WHO JUST REGISTERED LIKE TODAY LOL
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