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Originally posted by blacknoizybox man....this rotary shit is RETARDED!!!! why the hell would anyone buy some rotary mixer w/o EQs weighing a tonn....fucking retarded mixer and fuck the rotary... long (60 mm and up) fader is the way to go!!! *throws up on V6* *pisses with both hands and spits on V6* LOL

Kids. They never learn. How can you even have an opinion on rotary mixers if you've never even touched one?

yay....kids

rotary mixers like these were never intended as dj mixers.

end of! a pioneer djm is fine. no eq means no control over which part of the track get heared by the audience during the mix. you should never have two clashing low frequencies coming from a source.

rotary mixers are for bands. and bands rairly have two bassists or two drummers playing kick drum.

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Originally posted by richg101 rotary mixers like these were never intended as dj mixers. end of! a pioneer djm is fine. no eq means no control over which part of the track get heared by the audience during the mix. you should never have two clashing low frequencies coming from a source. rotary mixers are for bands. and bands rairly have two bassists or two drummers playing kick drum.

So, the Bozak CMA-10-2DL and it's clones (Urei 1602, Rane MP2016, Xone:V6) weren't intended as DJ mixers? Tell that to Louis Bozak! It was the first specifically designed and manufactured club-installation DJ mixer. It wasn't until DJ mixers became consumer-oriented that sliders began to appear, due to lower manufacturing costs.

Rotaries require a different mixing style. There still won't be two clashing lows if used properly.

And I've never seen a rotary live-sound console. It's always sliders.

uhhh...faders are more flexible

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Originally posted by Trogdor So, the Bozak CMA-10-2DL and it's clones (Urei 1602, Rane MP2016, Xone:V6) weren't intended as DJ mixers? Tell that to Louis Bozak! It was the first specifically designed and manufactured club-installation DJ mixer. It wasn't until DJ mixers became consumer-oriented that sliders began to appear, due to lower manufacturing costs. Rotaries require a different mixing style. There still won't be two clashing lows if used properly. And I've never seen a rotary live-sound console. It's always sliders.

bozak??? - shmozak!! ha ha.

no. slider pots became more popular when they came down in price. just because the first 'oldstyle' primative mixer used rotary pots and had no eq doesnt mean it was meant to be.. the components were probably not as available those days.

im sorry but these rotary mixers you love so much are a geeky fad that will soon blow over.

have a look at some mixer-amps by all the main manufacturers in the 80's. they are all rotary and these days the models have been replaced by models that use slider pots.

the only functional dj mixer that uses rotary pots is the xone 96 rotary version.

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Im sorry richg but saying that rotary mixers are a fad is a pretty dumb thing to say...

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the only functional dj mixer that uses rotary pots is the xone 96 rotary version.

I dont get you... what about the pioneer djm1000 that came out not to long ago it has a rotary version avaliable.
A range of denon mixers have rotary avaliable.
There are the vestax pmc mixers with rotary faders...

Rotary faders have there advantages.
Im not saying that they are just better then panel faders because ofcourse its all about prefrence but if your just mixing and not doing any cutting scratching (you can use the xfader anyway) then i dont see why the idea of a rotary fader is stupid.

As mentioned by someone in the production forum (i cant remember who) "Limitations lead to creativeness" its very true if you dont have eqs it basicaly forces you to choose tracks the work better together. And just because the level fader is rotary doesnt mean the mixer cant have eqs...

I think im done now


EDIT: I almost forget... im pretty sure they call it an Xone 92 these days

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy As mentioned by someone in the production forum (i cant remember who) "Limitations lead to creativeness" its very true if you dont have eqs it basicaly forces you to choose tracks the work better together. And just because the level fader is rotary doesnt mean the mixer cant have eqs... I think im done now

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Originally posted by blacknoizybox

lol! nice one!

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i forgot the Peak indicator (one green light for each channel maybe)

You don't even need that

I think if a lot of DJ's learned to mix on something like this: Rotary pots only, no gains, no level indicators, and cueing on one channel at a time ONLY... that you'd be a better DJ in the end.

I practice like that on my Xone 92 sometimes. Mixing only with the rotary pots, really makes you focus on what is important: track selection.

If I had to keep one feature though, it would be the filters!

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Originally posted by blacknoizybox i forgot the Peak indicator (one green light for each channel maybe)