DO NOT PUT ANYTHING IN SOMEONE'S MOUTH WHILE THEY'RE HAVING A SEIZURE.



jesus, i'm so sick of people saying that. it is physically impossible to swallow your own tongue.



anyway, yea my aunt has grand mal seizures in her sleep (the worst kind) and i witnessed one when i was 6. i freaked out and started screaming and hid under the bed and my mom ran upstairs and got me. it was really bad.


you just need to make sure there's nothing around that can hurt them, so putting a pillow under their head is good, if you can. you just have to restrain them and wait for it to pass.

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My soliloquy may be hard for some to swallow, but so is cod liver oil.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee it is physically impossible to swallow your own tongue.

True, but it can block your airway and cause you to suffocate. That is why they tell you that.

And as people have said... do not put anything in the mouth. If the jaw is clenched shut... you would practically have to break the teeth to get into it. Likewise, if it is open... it could shut on you and then you can kiss your fingers gone or expect a shit ton of pain.

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Originally posted by Slylee you just have to restrain them

You need to learn to read too:

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From Wiki The person should never be restrained,

I really think you people should learn yourselves about seizures before you speak outa your ass. Read the freakin articles:

Wiki Article

Kaiser

Epilepsy Foundation

MedlinePlus

The only reason I am making the effort to correct the mistakes in this thread, is becuase the original poster seemed genuinely shaken by this event and wanted to know what to do in the future. Giving him false information could result in injury to him or his friend.

Last edited by NebulousQ on May-17-2006 at 17:53

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Originally posted by NebulousQ You need to learn to read too: "The person should never be restrained" I really think you people should learn yourselves about seizures before you speak outa your ass. Read the freakin articles: Wiki Article Kaiser Epilepsy Foundation MedlinePlus

hey i have an idea. why don't u KISS MY WHITE ASS, BALL!


if someone is having a seizure and there are dangerous items around them that can be harmful, yes, u need to move them and try to restrain them gently, just so they dont hurt themselves. i'm sure if someone has a violent seizure in the ER all the doctors are just going to stand around quietly and leave them alone and wait for it to blow over right? not really. they only say that because they don't want anyone to get hurt while trying to restrain the person. but obviously if someone close to you has them a lot, u sort of become a pro at dealing with them. and one of the main reasons why u dont ever put something in their mouth (like a spoon, which everyone claims u should do) is because they could bite down on it and break a tooth. but as far as trying to hold them down a little so they don't thrash into things that could hurt them, that's not a HUGE no no. i didn't mean like jump on them and hold them down aggressively...i just meant like try to control their limbs a little.


and i'm not talking out of my ass. if you would learn to read, u would know i have an aunt with epilepsy so i've learned about it and had to deal with it since she lived with my family for a while.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Vlad What dumbasses those medic people were... Youre also supposed to put something in his mouth so that he doesnt bite his tongue off and/or swallow it.

LOL...and you're in medical school??? This post was a joke right??

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Originally posted by Slylee you just have to restrain them and wait for it to pass.

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Originally posted by Slylee but as far as trying to hold them down a little so they don't thrash into things that could hurt them, that's not a HUGE no no.

RESTRAIN:

1.
1. To hold back or keep in check; control: couldn't restrain the tears.
2. To hold (a person) back; prevent: restrained them from going.
2. To deprive of freedom or liberty.
3. To limit or restrict.


i think we're splitting hairs here perhaps.

anyway who cares, just knock them out next time so they dont break the fuckin china and scrape all the walls!

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so basically, if someone has a seizure, make sure they arent anywhere that they might hurt themselves, avoid going near there mouth, call ambulance if they dont have a med braclet for epilipsy. if they have the bracelet though, you just wait it out right?

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What's with people being all defensive? You(plural, and in general) make broad and questionable statements, then "specifiy" and "explain" what you "meant" after the veracity of your statement is questioned.

Look, Slylee, you said: "you just have to restrain them", which is not true. You do not want to try to restrain them. While I have never actually dealt with a person who is having a seizure, I am First Aid certified by the Red Cross. What I learned there is that you do not restrain them as a general rule. Even if you do not believe me EVERY article and publication that I have read agrees that you should not restrain the person having a seizure. Here is another one that I shall quote just for fun:

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From Epilepsy.com Do not hold the person down If the person having a seizure thrashes around there is no need for you to restrain them.

Epilepsy.com

However, you then proceeded to add the caveat:

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Originally posted by Slylee but as far as trying to hold them down a little so they don't thrash into things that could hurt them, that's not a HUGE no no. i didn't mean like jump on them and hold them down aggressively...i just meant like try to control their limbs a little.

More important than trying to restrain them, even "a little", would be to remove any objects that could cause harm from them and from the general area. There may be times when this is not possible as with doctors in an Emergency Room and then, perhaps, it MIGHT be proper to restrain them.
As you have experience with your aunt I am not implying that you do not know anything about seizures nor that what you have been doing is wrong. I am just trying to make sure proper advice is given to Take5. This is not about me being right or wrong, but about giving the proper advice in a potentially dangerous situation.

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Originally posted by Slylee hey i have an idea. why don't u KISS MY WHITE ASS, BALL!

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"BALL!"? What do you mean by that.

I've had a seizure for a drug allergy when i was younger.

My jaw was clamped shut all right and my tongue kept pointing to the left,I couldnt face right..my neck muscles would stiffen and everytime i tried to turn right..it kept swinging to the left.


When i reached hospital.. i remembered the doctor putting a needle up my arse or something. That was some scary shit. Not the seizure..the needle going through my asshole.

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Originally posted by trewqy I've had a seizure for a drug allergy when i was younger. My jaw was clamped shut all right and my tongue kept pointing to the left,I couldnt face right..my neck muscles would stiffen and everytime i tried to turn right..it kept swinging to the left. When i reached hospital.. i remembered the doctor putting a needle up my arse or something. That was some scary shit. Not the seizure..the needle going through my asshole.

asshole or ass cheek.....if its the hole I don't think that was a needle.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 asshole or ass cheek.....if its the hole I don't think that was a needle.

I cant remember.. I was probably 7 or 8. But it was something cold.. and i think my asshole was touched.LOL..maybe the doc was getting a quicky.

Anyways.. i was passed out a few seconds after that.

To the best of my knowledge as a nursing student, I'd have to say that NebulousQ's advice is correct.