make sure you get the second version... its a good video. another one to download is "Martial Law - Rise of the Police State" This video gets into the backround of the elite powers of the world and why it would have been staged etc. Its a wakeup call for those who can take it.

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Originally posted by Aureus if you have faith in your government to tell you what actually occurred, you have more than a few screws loose. mezzir.. it's not about "jumping on a bandwagon".. it's about facing the evidence. conservatives that try and spin this whole topic as a "conspiracy" are only hurting this country and its citizens.

I don't believe everything the government says and I know they have information about the attacks that they aren't sharing with the public for whatever reason. But there is no way the attacks were staged. What purpose would it serve to do so? Were they bored one day and decided to fuck with everyone?

Wow there are some PDD tools that would love this.

But i got some questions with this video. I believe the video states that some of the supposed 9/11 hijackers are alive. Now where is proof of this. Why doesnt a camera crew just go to these hijackers homes & inteview them.?

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Originally posted by jonSun Wow there are some PDD tools that would love this. But i got some questions with this video. I believe the video states that some of the supposed 9/11 hijackers are alive. Now where is proof of this. Why doesnt a camera crew just go to these hijackers homes & inteview them.?

Because George Bush sent them to a private island. Duh.

this was the biggest waste of time.

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Originally posted by flavdave Because George Bush sent them to a private island. Duh.

Not that this theory is crazy. Anyone whos read the 9/11 commision report could tell you theres alot of bs & alot of things that were not covered. The govt's story on 9/11 that came from the 9/11 commision is so full of holes that it gives fuel to conspiracy theorys. The govt doesnt even have an official story on what happened to WTC building 7. They couldnt come to a conclusion of why that building came down. So i dont know if its a Democract vs Republican thing, The govt had prior knowledge & failed to act do to confusion or incompetence, The govt knew & chose not to act or they were behind it.? Im just not gonna make a conclusion until i have these answers for myself.

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Originally posted by trewqy Much of the "facts" that were given in loose change were debunked. The beams inside a building were made of steel. As teh temperature rises the tensile stength of the building begines to weaken. Not sure what the temperature was inside.. but its gonna be at least 1000 degrees as the sprinklers cant do shit with jet fuel. You also have to take into account the wind. You might think this cant really make the towers fall.. but it really causes the steel to reach a certain limit where it would have to give way. Steel isnt the most ductile of materials. Look I'm a mechanical engineer, and I'm not saying I'm an expert..but it is certainly possible for the towers would fall withOUT the help of "bombs"

certainly is, the water from the sprinklers probably evaporated near instantly after leaving the sprinkler, and even in fully well skyscrapers, the wind moves them and they sway side to side, as much as around 6 feet (correct me if im wrong, i may be about the amount of movement due to wind)

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Originally posted by jonSun Not that this theory is crazy. Anyone whos read the 9/11 commision report could tell you theres alot of bs & alot of things that were not covered. The govt's story on 9/11 that came from the 9/11 commision is so full of holes that it gives fuel to conspiracy theorys. The govt doesnt even have an official story on what happened to WTC building 7. They couldnt come to a conclusion of why that building came down. So i dont know if its a Democract vs Republican thing, The govt had prior knowledge & failed to act do to confusion or incompetence, The govt knew & chose not to act or they were behind it.? Im just not gonna make a conclusion until i have these answers for myself.

well put... the story the govs giving us is a boatload os shit! just give us the damn truth.

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Originally posted by flavdave I don't believe everything the government says and I know they have information about the attacks that they aren't sharing with the public for whatever reason. But there is no way the attacks were staged. What purpose would it serve to do so? Were they bored one day and decided to fuck with everyone?

do some research on the world elite... bilderbergs and global government, globalization etc. its not a left/right US thing at all. its global corruption. and you can look in history books as well... how did so many dictators take power?

They create what called "Problem/Reaction/Solution" ex. Create "Terror" we react with "SAVE US GOVERNMENT!" and then you get freedoms striped from you in the name of "Security"... that would be the elite's so called "Solution"... its realy more power.

did you see on the mainstream news how bush said just few weeks ago... "I am the decider" and his staff says that "he is over the law"... that should rase questions in everyones head.

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Originally posted by jonSun Not that this theory is crazy. Anyone whos read the 9/11 commision report could tell you theres alot of bs & alot of things that were not covered. The govt's story on 9/11 that came from the 9/11 commision is so full of holes that it gives fuel to conspiracy theorys. The govt doesnt even have an official story on what happened to WTC building 7. They couldnt come to a conclusion of why that building came down. So i dont know if its a Democract vs Republican thing, The govt had prior knowledge & failed to act do to confusion or incompetence, The govt knew & chose not to act or they were behind it.? Im just not gonna make a conclusion until i have these answers for myself.

I agree with the part that I bolded. Our government is so caught up in partisan politics that it's hard for it to accomplish anything, for example the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. This is more of a case of our government being incompetent, rather than a case of our government pulling off some crazy scam.

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Originally posted by dcougar99 do some research on the world elite... bilderbergs and global government, globalization etc. its not a left/right US thing at all. its global corruption. and you can look in history books as well... how did so many dictators take power? They create what called "Problem/Reaction/Solution" ex. Create "Terror" we react with "SAVE US GOVERNMENT!" and then you get freedoms striped from you in the name of "Security"... that would be the elite's so called "Solution"... its realy more power. did you see on the mainstream news how bush said just few weeks ago... "I am the decider" and his staff says that "he is over the law"... that should rase questions in everyones head.

Bush: Hey you know what I hate? People making phone calls without us keeping track of who they are calling.
Rove: Ok, let's blow up the World Trade Center.