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Welp it used to pretty much be anything over 135 but I've come to love it all. In a club, I'd like it slow at first... 120 to 130 and then by the end of the night up to 135+.

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In general I pick a bpm and stay with it the entire night or increase slightly later in the night. Instead of increasing the bpms throughout the night I'd rather increase the energy of the tracks at the same bpm.


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125-128 usually

...can't stand dance music much faster than that since the real bouncy rhythms and grooves become lost with the faster-paced tempos.


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quote:
Originally posted by GUBostonDubs
In general I pick a bpm and stay with it the entire night or increase slightly later in the night. Instead of increasing the bpms throughout the night I'd rather increase the energy of the tracks at the same bpm.


Don't understand this, wouldn't you technically be increasing the energy as you increase the BPMs? Sure the tunes might be more energetic sounding but say they are a tune that is 135 and your playing it at say 130 or less, thats a bit slower and doesn't quit match the speed/energy that it was meant to be played at.

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Don't understand this, wouldn't you technically be increasing the energy as you increase the BPMs? Sure the tunes might be more energetic but say they are a tune that is 135 and your playing it at say 130 or less, thats a bit slower and doesn't quit match the speed/energy that it was meant to be played at.


It's knowing your music. I wouldn't try to pitch down a track that far but my point is that bpms do not = the amount of energy in a track. That's a common misconception. Also if I was playing all tracks at 126 bpms I would be generally playing tracks that were meant for that range ie. not pitched up or down too far.


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It's knowing your music. I wouldn't try to pitch down a track that far but my point is that bpms do not = the amount of energy in a track. That's a common misconception.


I understand, I have just always equated higher BPMs with increased energy, building up sets gradually by BPM. I'm not saying lower BPMs have no energy since I try to stick around 128 to 132. Just try to play tunes around their original BPMs, really pitching down something or even pitching up something can take some of the energy away in the tracks i've seen...

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I understand, I have just always equated higher BPMs with increased energy, building up sets gradually by BPM. I'm not saying lower BPMs have no energy since I try to stick around 128 to 132. Just try to play tunes around their original BPMs, really pitching down something or even pitching up something can take some of the energy away in the tracks i've seen...


That's why I don't pitch up or down too far at all. It's about what elements make up the track and the energy contained within them. You find me 10 tracks all at 130 bpms set at 0 on the pitch control and I would try to place them in the order of their energy level to build up the set if I wanted to keep increasing the energy all the way through the set or bring down the energy. This is what djs like Danny Howells, Sasha, and Digweed often do. Howells for example in a 10 hour set at pawn shop in miami I doubt changed the bpm the entire night yet created many peaks and valleys due to the energy levels of the tracks themselves. That's advanced level djing stuff and something I'm hoping to eventually master that at some point.


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quote:
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That's why I don't pitch up or down too far at all. It's about what elements make up the track and the energy contained within them. You find me 10 tracks all at 130 bpms set at 0 on the pitch control and I would try to place them in the order of their energy level to build up the set if I wanted to keep increasing the energy all the way through the set or bring down the energy. This is what djs like Danny Howells, Sasha, and Digweed often do. Howells for example in a 10 hour set at pawn shop in miami I doubt changed the bpm the entire night yet created many peaks and valleys due to the energy levels of the tracks themselves. That's advanced level djing stuff and something I'm hoping to eventually master at some point.


Cool, I understand, because I keep the same BPM for like 3 or 4 tracks in some my mixes, and I know sometimes i've almost kept the same BPM throughout, like last night, so I know what your talking about. I guess it's just a miconceptation that higher BPM = more energy, but I think if your only doing an hour or two you should probably increase it, vs. a 4 hour to 10 hour set where you have more time to play a variety of stuff, and besides you could go into such huge BPM levels by doing that over 4 hours. So thanks for clearing this up, didn't mean to make it sound like a debate.

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Cool, I understand, because I keep the same BPM for like 3 or 4 tracks in some my mixes, and I know sometimes i've almost kept the same BPM throughout, like last night, so I know what your talking about. I guess it's just a miconceptation that higher BPM = more energy, but I think if your only doing an hour or two you should probably increase it, vs. a 4 hour to 10 hour set where you have more time to play a variety of stuff, and besides you could go into such huge BPM levels by doing that over 4 hours. So thanks for clearing this up, didn't mean to make it sound like a debate.


No problem. I just think it's one way to make things smoother and have more flow As long as you increase or decrease bpms in a way that is not audible to the crowd ie during breakdowns...you will be fine. I remember tiesto in avalon a few years ago blatently slowing down a track in the middle of it to allow the next track to come in. I think he even did that a few times on his ISOS 4 cd. I dont think that's the best way to do things. It's just something that other djs have told me about and I've picked up on myself to help improve my own djing skills


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