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SVGmethod
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Nrg2Nfinit
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I fail to see how Stock, Aitken & Waterman can be considered "influential EDM artists". Sure, they were one of the most succesful chart buster factories in history, but how exactly does this make them "influential EDM artists"?


Simple.. people (modern artists) look to these guys as influences when they produce.

They were responsible for the widespread of electronica in the 80s in europe and in north america combined. They're sound ranged from 80s dance, regular synthpop, eurodance, early 90s dance house.

When we look at productions liek mel and kim from 1986.. its clear that artists like s express (early pioneers to house) were influenced by these types of basslines and structures created by the stock aitken and waterman group.


Also im listing these guys as a trio since htey all produced most of their productions togetehr. All three of them put together deserve a spot up there i would think. Influence can come from something commercial, lest not forget that. Underground dance music especially house is usually familiar tracks just sampled. These three were the kings of commercial EDM.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Simple.. people (modern artists) look to these guys as influences when they produce.

They were responsible for the widespread of electronica in the 80s in europe and in north america combined. They're sound ranged from 80s dance, regular synthpop, eurodance, early 90s dance house.

When we look at productions liek mel and kim from 1986.. its clear that artists like s express (early pioneers to house) were influenced by these types of basslines and structures created by the stock aitken and waterman group.


Also im listing these guys as a trio since htey all produced most of their productions togetehr. All three of them put together deserve a spot up there i would think. Influence can come from something commercial, lest not forget that. Underground dance music especially house is usually familiar tracks just sampled. These three were the kings of commercial EDM.


That's well and good, but how does this make them EDM artists? Without the amen break, drum n bass/jungle would probably not exist. That doesn't make The Winstons and James Brown EDM artists. If this thread was called "top 10 EDM influences", then I would be inclined to agree with you.


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Nrg2Nfinit
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quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
That's well and good, but how does this make them EDM artists? Without the amen break, drum n bass/jungle would probably not exist. That doesn't make The Winstons and James Brown EDM artists. If this thread was called "top 10 EDM influences", then I would be inclined to agree with you.



Isnt that what the thread is called

i guess i am definatley neglecting the infamous drum and bass speeded up breakbeat. artists from the early 80s have produced drum and bass type music, which i did not mention.

I think i covered breakbeats though with juan atkins and arthur baker, not to mention kraftwerk of course.

As i said, the stock aitken and waterman group did pioneer that dark dirty driving 90s euro house bassline (as far as i can recall back) with their mel and kim productions.


Being pop (ular) edm artists, stock aitken and waterman must have definatley been a huge influence on artists who would proceed them.

An influential artist is one that is examined and utilized to generate a twist on their sound (to put it bluntley). Thats why i consider most producers after the mid 90s to just be innovators of music that has already been structured and created in a less progressive form from the past.

Yes we are talking about EDM here, sequencing these beats and synths mathematically is a HUGE breakthrough in electronic music AND a huge influence on other artists. Who better then stock aitken and waterman to choose who perfected this technique, created innovations with it and produced tons and tons of artists throughout the 80s and 90s with that electronic sound.

I still think they are deserving. If we are talking about the underground, they definatley were not.

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so frankie wilde is a real person/artist whatever and not just some name in a movie then right?

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so frankie wilde is a real person/artist whatever and not just some name in a movie then right?


he's real... check his site http://www.frankiewilde.net/

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