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Originally posted by Vivid Boy oh o :O that happens to me once in a while. ill think ill see somethig and its somethign completely different out the corner of my eye

Thats cause you never wipe the jizz crusts from your eye.

Very sorry to hear this but please don't feel alone either.
I grew up with my Dad and his brother (my fav uncle) both having bi-polar disorders.
I know it's not full out schizophrenia but believe me when I say this, it would have been tons easier on the family (including myself) if it was; much easier to deal with
My problem is you can't admit them ANYWHERE unless they're a threat (to themselves or others) and they have to go willingly; with diagnosed schizophrenia that's not an issue.
It's only when they were at the peak of their 'cycles' that the cat was out of the bag so to speak, that anybody would do anything because at that time, it was more than obvious there was a problem.
Very, very, very frustrating let me tell you.
You feel very hopeless when you know your own dad is having problems and you can't help at all.
They're of sound mind and all but they have VERY wacked ideas, irregular breathing when they sleep, IF they sleep, and ideas come to them like a train without the breaks.

I hope my little story helps you out.
I know it's not easy to take and I can somewhat relate but know this, there have been leaps and bounces in this afflication over the past 10 years or so (yea, only 10 years) so have hope.
We're only just starting to understand this area and the support groups are just, within the last few years, starting to appear.
And yes, there are support groups for those that have family members with schizophrenia/bi-polar.
It's a huge toll on everyone so don't feel alone.

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Originally posted by Nikitha About the drug relation, I can tell you that his drug past has nothing to do with his condition... this disease is passed on through genetics only.

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Originally posted by Nikitha About the drug relation, I can tell you that his drug past has nothing to do with his condition... this disease is passed on through genetics only.

This is false.

As far as cannabis goes, it is undetermined whether cannabis causes psychological disorders, or if people with psychological disorders (or prone to psychological disorders) are more prone to smoking cannabis. One thing is for sure, there are more drug users or instances of a history of drug usage among people with psychological disorders than with the general populatoin.

As far as psychedelics go (mushrooms, LSD), it is generally assumed that these drugs can bring about under lying psychological illnesses that may or may not have ever surfaced.

Your position went from the original quote to this

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i wasn't saying drugs don't affect it.. i was saying that its never been proven that drugs cause it

Remember: If something hasn't been prooven, it still could be true until it is proven to be untrue.

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Originally posted by The Highroller This is false. As far as cannabis goes, it is undetermined whether cannabis causes psychological disorders, or if people with psychological disorders (or prone to psychological disorders) are more prone to smoking cannabis. One thing is for sure, there are more drug users or instances of a history of drug usage among people with psychological disorders than with the general populatoin. As far as psychedelics go (mushrooms, LSD), it is generally assumed that these drugs can bring about under lying psychological illnesses that may or may not have ever surfaced. Your position went from the original quote to this Remember: If something hasn't been prooven, it still could be true until it is proven to be untrue.

As i said in later comments... in my teachings in psychology it has never been said and concrete that those drugs cause the diseases... and by cause i mean actually create the imbalances.. not trigger them.. but actually CREATE them...
like i said in a few other comments i have only been taught that there must be a genetic link BEFORE any other influences can effect a person and their disease...
i'm sure there are many links of drugs to these mental diseases.. as drugs are linked to many diseases..
and i'm sure there are many theories that are testing and have tested the links between the drugs and schizophrenia.. but i believe the only concrete evidence found for a person having schizophrenia is through a genetic link first and foremost... be it from a close family member or even a old ancestor..

Nikki

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Originally posted by Nikitha but i believe the only concrete evidence

Good luck finding any concrete evidence when it comes to illicit drugs.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Good luck finding any concrete evidence when it comes to illicit drugs.

haha.. really eh?

I think it would be really smart to test thats sort of things... its not like they have to turn ppl into addicts.. they can find addicts anywhere....

I guess it would be really wrong though... but I think professionals would be able to find so much information...

Nikki

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Originally posted by Nikitha haha.. really eh? I think it would be really smart to test thats sort of things... its not like they have to turn ppl into addicts.. they can find addicts anywhere.... I guess it would be really wrong though... but I think professionals would be able to find so much information... Nikki

Of course it would be smart to do so. If researchers were permitted to do so, we could learn a lot about illicit drugs. Unfortunately, the government doesn't seem to like researchers doing studies on illicit drugs unless it's a study that prooves how "bad" they are. As a result, we don't know much about these drugs, except that if you do them, you'll end up as a failure and eventually die of an overdose.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Unfortunately, the government doesn't seem to like researchers doing studies on illicit drugs unless it's a study that prooves how "bad" they are. As a result, we don't know much about these drugs,

yeah cause if u map history ull see crack addicts did alot of amazing things that couldnt have done without crack. like fly! or shit on my porch!


ah crack the miracle drug! if the gov't would only inform the public of its true positive potential

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Originally posted by MKpacha eric what you say never matters, and i'm getting really sick of you, so shut the fuck up.

listen u lil umptany whore. waving ur ass around ta like ur some kinda goddesss. oh look at me all the dudes like me and im new and wear make up. im so fuckin cool. pllllleease i see thru ur fake wanna be popular attitude. back in hs guys like me used to gang bang girls like u and leave em dropping out of school workin part time at the cleaners

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Originally posted by MKpacha Too bad yo' mama never raised you right....looks like you're doing the AC for my condo BIATCH

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Originally posted by MKpacha Too bad yo' mama never raised you right....looks like you're doing the AC for my condo BIATCH

ill be sure to take a shit in the supply return so u inhale/eat a lil bit of my shit particles everynight as u sleep.

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Originally posted by MKpacha not even funny.... go back to the west end

go back to fuckin jewville and live off of daddy's money.