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Originally posted by Psy-T i didn't say no one knows it better, i said i know it better than you based on your posts here. and yet again you go with the "your" music statement, if you mean music i produce or spin then yes, of course i realize i can look a lot farther back for the roots, only that they are completely irrelavant to this point in the discussion. and on again also with the bests and the betters? i never said any music is better than any other music here, so stop reading false meaning into my words. in the context of this thread, i have not claimed any music to be "my" kind of music. unlike you, i've kept as objective as possible.

in the context of this thread you can´t be objective. noone´s right when it comes to "the way it´s supposed to be" question. i just hate when someone ridicules what others like, like Ishkur did. and you seemed to back him up on what he said.

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I've said this numerous before but what the heck. This is what true trance is in my opinion:

Sample!

Sample 2 !

Sample 3 !

Yet another sample!

Another sample!


Freaky!


Relaxed !

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I've said this numerous before but what the heck. This is what true trance is in my opinion: Sample! Sample 2 ! Sample 3 ! Yet another sample! Another sample! Freaky! Relaxed !

All of them were really good. Gonna try and listen to more of this....

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Originally posted by paulandrews in the context of this thread you can´t be objective. noone´s right when it comes to "the way it´s supposed to be" question. i just hate when someone ridicules what others like, like Ishkur did. and you seemed to back him up on what he said.

there can be 'objectiveness' when there's a definition, when even the name of the genre suggests that very definition (parts of it at least).

and fyi, there is one such definition. (hint: check wikipedia)

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Originally posted by Demoted Psy-T loves teh acid.

that says Derek, not Psy-T

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Originally posted by Psy-T and fyi, there is one such definition. (hint: check wikipedia)

yes, i know that.

but still, it´s in the way how you understand the question. where have you read the topic starter wants to know something about the trance roots? he just said what are his thoughts about how should trance sound like and asked us to give him some opinions.

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Originally posted by Psy-T there can be 'objectiveness' when there's a definition, when even the name of the genre suggests that very definition (parts of it at least)

The name of the genre suggests a subjective definition to begin with. It's like calling a genre 'music that's fun to listen to'.

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Originally posted by Aquarian The name of the genre suggests a subjective definition to begin with. It's like calling a genre 'music that's fun to listen to'.

...should the fact that objectiveness is impossible dissuade me from using that word?

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Originally posted by paulandrews yes, i know that. but still, it´s in the way how you understand the question. where have you read the topic starter wants to know something about the trance roots? he just said what are his thoughts about how should trance sound like and asked us to give him some opinions.

let me put it this way... should a chocolate cake contain chocolate or at least taste like chocolate?

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Originally posted by Psy-T ...should the fact that objectiveness is impossible dissuade me from using that word?

Objectivity is possible as long as you accept everyone's definition of the word. So if listening to elvis presley puts me in a trance, then it's trance music. So far you've been doing the opposite. You've been defining trance by your vision of it and yours alone.

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Originally posted by Psy-T let me put it this way... should a chocolate cake contain chocolate or at least taste like chocolate?

of course it should. but you can´t compare chocolate (as there´s absolutely clear it´s a word for some highly specific kind of "material" or "food") with trance (which, in case of music, is art, and talking about definitions it´s a state of mind - what makes it highly subjective then).

chocolate is a material thing, art´s not. art has a space to evolve and change and how we name it is only up to us cause it´s subjective.

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