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7-4-7
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funny how the conservatives here remain rather quiet...

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funny how the conservatives here remain rather quiet...


I think their voices are all hoarse after dominating all the sponsorSHIP scandal... sail away sail away


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baby want his bottle??..


if you didnt want to read a political thread, why did u???


just to stir some shit up lol


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just to stir some shit up lol

Oh, Peter!


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Oh, Peter!


lol i'm kidding .....


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I think their voices are all hoarse after dominating all the sponsorSHIP scandal... sail away sail away


....so long as they sail away on newly purchased Amphibian Navy vessels, on dirty waters, they are content. Their day in the sun is long since doomed.

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quote:
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funny how the conservatives here remain rather quiet...


its a non story thats why


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At least two large national newspapers decided that the piece was not fit to print. It appears though that they have CP feeds on their websites.



I'm guessing that someone in-house approves those feeds...or do newspapers just trust the CP that much.


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In fact, the Canada Elections Act does not stipulate that at all.





The following section of the Elections Act seems to cover that:

408. If a fund-raising activity is held for the primary purpose of soliciting a monetary contribution for a registered party, a registered association, a candidate, a leadership contestant or a nomination contestant by way of selling a ticket, the amount of the monetary contribution received is the difference between the price of the ticket and the fair market value of what the ticket entitles the bearer to obtain.

2000, c. 9, s. 408; 2003, c. 19, s. 27.


I think it's the very end that is relevant...staffing and venue costs don't have a corresponding "market value" to anything the ticket holder could expect to obatin by paying that sum of money...so those costs wouldn't come off the amount that would need to be declared as donation revenue.

i.e. any revenue above and beyond the costs of tangible benefits to the ticket bearer is consdiered a donation.

I could be way off...but that's how it reads to me (?)

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The following section of the Elections Act seems to cover that:

408. If a fund-raising activity is held for the primary purpose of soliciting a monetary contribution for a registered party, a registered association, a candidate, a leadership contestant or a nomination contestant by way of selling a ticket, the amount of the monetary contribution received is the difference between the price of the ticket and the fair market value of what the ticket entitles the bearer to obtain.

2000, c. 9, s. 408; 2003, c. 19, s. 27.


I think it's the very end that is relevant...staffing and venue costs don't have a corresponding "market value" to anything the ticket holder could expect to obatin by paying that sum of money...so those costs wouldn't come off the amount that would need to be declared as donation revenue.

i.e. any revenue above and beyond the costs of tangible benefits to the ticket bearer is consdiered a donation.

I could be way off...but that's how it reads to me (?)




The primary purpose of a Convention is NOT to solicit monetary contributions (but rather to debate party policy and amend the party's constitution).

This entire matter is a ruse planted in the media by Liberal Party officials angry at the new limits on corporate donations in the Federal Accountability Act. It's not even that they're concerned about the Liberal leadership convention itself, it's that the Liberals get most of their donations from corporations, while the CPC gets more donations from individuals.


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The primary purpose of a Convention is NOT to solicit monetary contributions (but rather to debate party policy and amend the party's constitution).

This entire matter is a ruse planted in the media by Liberal Party officials angry at the new limits on corporate donations in the Federal Accountability Act. It's not even that they're concerned about the Liberal leadership convention itself, it's that the Liberals get most of their donations from corporations, while the CPC gets more donations from individuals.


a ruse planted in the media... geez, is there no end to the spin doctoring? is this what we can look forward to each and everytime there is an article that has something to say about the CPC?

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a ruse planted in the media... geez, is there no end to the spin doctoring? is this what we can look forward to each and everytime there is an article that has something to say about the CPC?


No, if there's a legitimate issue to discuss. However, in this case the contents of that article were clearly refuted.

What shocks me is how many sheep there are here who would blindly follow what's fed to them, even when a simple search would show that what they're being fed is bunk.


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Old Post Jun-30-2006 13:27  United Nations
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bunk.



^ what a great word. "bunk"

Imma gonna use it this weekend somehow in a sentence


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