lol, if it weren't for you guys i wouldn't know a thing about this

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Originally posted by Psy-T lol, if it weren't for you guys i wouldn't know a thing about this

As far as I know, there's plently of dissent in Israel, including some IDF soldiers who refused to serve in the Occupied terrirories. I guess it's no surprise that they're marginalized there.

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Originally posted by tathi Did you watch Dateline last night Renegade and PKC? The IDF were shooting at reporters in Gaza to create a media blackout to prevent the rest of the world from finding out what's happening there; one belgium reporter got hit in the center of his fluero yellow MEDIA flak jacket by what they think was a sniper, they kept on firing at the Australian reporter who was surrounded by Palestinian kids who kept on yelling "don't be scared, keep filming" to get the message out to the rest of the world. They showed all these grape crops and orange trees plantations that the IDF Bulldozers levelled that were these families only livelihood, there were IDF Tanks blocking the path to the hospital of three Palestinian ambulances that were filled with Palestinian civilians who'd been seriously injured in IDF strikes. One school that was donated and built by the UN had become a makeshift hospital for the many civilians who'd been injured in Israeli strikes. This IDF state-sponsored terrorism and collective punishment is disgusting, how does Israel expect to maintain the moral high ground when it's actions are as bad as Hamas? How many Palestinians is one Israeli life worth?

A media black out is, unfortunately, almost to be expected. They eigther blame the victims (i.e. Palestinians) for "instigating" or claim an incident to be an "accident." But you already know that.

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Iran will probably get involved in this shortly.


Things are not looking good over there AT ALL.

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It's pretty much war now. I hate to sound like an ass.. but.. it was going to come to this eventually... Both sides refuse to cooperate.. cycle of escalation... and boom.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Iran will probably get involved in this shortly. Things are not looking good over there AT ALL.

I just hope this doesn't turn into an all out regional war.

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bummer

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, punish an entire people for the actions of a few

Well they've held the state of Lebanon responsible and sabi10 is advocating an attack on the state. The populace always suffers, that's the way wars work. Don't get me wrong Id love it i when two states went to war it was just one set of politicians bombing another set of politicians, unfortunately the body politic is more than just the politicians.

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I know this might sound like a random question, but how common is miscegenation among Jews, Arabs and the Lebanese?

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Originally posted by tathi Did you watch Dateline last night Renegade and PKC? The IDF were shooting at reporters in Gaza to create a media blackout to prevent the rest of the world from finding out what's happening there; one belgium reporter got hit in the center of his fluero yellow MEDIA flak jacket by what they think was a sniper, they kept on firing at the Australian reporter who was surrounded by Palestinian kids who kept on yelling "don't be scared, keep filming" to get the message out to the rest of the world. They showed all these grape crops and orange trees plantations that the IDF Bulldozers levelled that were these families only livelihood, there were IDF Tanks blocking the path to the hospital of three Palestinian ambulances that were filled with Palestinian civilians who'd been seriously injured in IDF strikes. One school that was donated and built by the UN had become a makeshift hospital for the many civilians who'd been injured in Israeli strikes.

What's this got to do with Lebanon?

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This IDF state-sponsored terrorism and collective punishment is disgusting, how does Israel expect to maintain the moral high ground when it's actions are as bad as Hamas? How many Palestinians is one Israeli life worth?

This Hezbollah state-sponsored terrorism and raiding of Isreali soldiers is disgusting, how does the Hezbollah expect to win when it's actions and agenda are constantly dragging in innocent people?

This works both ways tathi so let's not jump on the Zoinist bandwagon when the Hezbollah are clearly sponsered pawns in a much bigger battle.

The fact of the matter is, Isreal isn't going anywhere and as soon Hezbollah get that through their thick skulls and actually try and compromise instead of constant guerrilla RPG attacks, the area has no hope.

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Originally posted by tathi How many Palestinians is one Israeli life worth?

According to the Palestinians, 1000. *


*Source:
"Israel's stance could be hardening: No deals"
Palestinians recently demanded the release of 1,000 prisoners in exchange for [one] Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit,
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/...-no-deals_x.htm

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