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Originally posted by Philby i think you should go out and party more instead of being so negative towards the people who are trying to get somewhere and put us "on the map" as you say...

this is Abhay. He can't do that or else he won't have anyhting to talk about. He knocks knocks knocks and thats all.

I like how he claims Melbourne has a small scene when he obviously hasn't ever been there. Melbourne's is a pretty decent size. If you can't find a lot of EDM of all types in Melbourne on any given weekend you really do suck. Not too many places have as many large festival type events as Melbourne does.

I quite like this one

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Originally posted by Abhay when ppl think of EDM, and EDM culture and artists. No-one thinks of Australia.

Luke Chable
Rob Dougan
Infusion
Nubreed
Pendulum
Anthony Pappa
Steve May
Dirty South
I think Madison Avenue also had moderate success overseas.

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Originally posted by Abhay None I'm aware of are in any other state other than WA.

Several from Adelaide. Some from Hobart. A couple from Perth. Even one or two from Canberra.



I'm not saying Australia's scene is huge, successful or a major power.
But Abhay exaggerates everything to try to make himself seem knowledgeable and important. The scene is not as bad as he tries to make it seem.

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Originally posted by Philby do you know who dave seaman is? or markus schultz? or armin van buuren? they are all pretty big names with big labels...do you know which artists are signed to those labels? and have big selling tunes on those labels?? i'll give you a hint: i may have already mentioned some of them...perhaps trance in australia is not as mainstream popular as in europe...or not as popular in general as in europe. but there is no way you can say our scene is shit...especially edm in general. for the last few years i think you will struggle to find a weekend where there have been no international djs or acts in edm visiting here...australia in my experience has a great edm scene, especially here in melbourne at least, there is always something on somewhere whether you like house breaks or trance. in other states maybe not as big, due to population or culture but again i think in general we here have a great scene. i think you should go out and party more instead of being so negative towards the people who are trying to get somewhere and put us "on the map" as you say...

lol yeah australia has a great dance scene......hardly anyone has heard of chable (i loooove his dream on remix btw).....you dont belive me? oh well, ahve fun living in la la land, but most of my friends in europe dont even know who he is, maybe infusion, but even then, wow, one group....we might get pvd once every 3-4years so hurra for that....tiesto once a year...but look at how many times he visits everywhere else in the world (all big name jocks)...

so what if lawrence and one or two other big names want to live here....prob be a lot more quieter for them if they live here since no-one knows them:P

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Originally posted by Spartan Well, I don't know anyone named "Kid" Kenobi, but old Ben Kenobi lives out beyond the dune sea. He's kind of a strange old hermit.

rofl

LALALALALLA.......... LALALALALLA...

Very few in Australia would know any of the names u guys mentioned. They'd more likely know names like Kid Kenobi and Nick SKitz. They wouldn't know shit all about "OTHER 'TECHNO SHIT' ARTISTS" overseas.

^THIS VERY FACT, SAYS OUR SCENE IS KINDA ISOLATED FROM TEH REST OF THE WORLD.

Fine, Australia might produce one or two artists, but when no-one in Aus knows them, and most of their recognition comes from overseas, it just backs up my point. Your basically just agreeing with me, without realising it.

NO-one thinks of Australia when it comes to EDM. Other country's particularily in Europe, and the USA would come into mind first. AUstrlia, NO. EVERY developed country produces a great EDM producer here and there, but that doesn't mean that because one great producer is FINISH, that EVERYONE WIL THINK THAT THE CENTRE OF TRANCE IS FINALND, and that FINLAND THRIVES ON TRANCE (though it certainly does relative to Australia).

THanks for concurring with what i was saying about the strength of the scene in different parts of the country, i guess we just have differnet definitions of what "Big" and "small" is, atleast we agreed on the relative scale.

The scene is whacked out here, I'm not saying it's non-existant, but it's fucking woeful. Australians don't see clubbing as a big part of their culture, full-stop (bad or good). If I was in Melbourne then i'd probably stop bitching. In Sydney, maybe just once in a while when i'd had too much to drink.

I'm not saying there ISN'T A SCENE. My major point is that it's skewed and bent in it's own little world.

Seriosuly, who the fuck are u people kidding. Next you'll be telling me that the movie industry in Australia is great because it produces great actors....

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter I'm not saying Australia's scene is huge, successful or a major power.

Thankyou

do u notice that the only ppl who could reply as to who Kid Kenobi was, was just Australians first?

okay, okay, i think we have heard enough ridicule of Australian dance music because one idiot doesn't know who Kid Kenobi is. Truth is, I dont like the music he plays, but he is a great jock. If you know where to look ( www.stomp.com.au ) for starters, you'll find the best quality edm out there, anywhere.
I'm 17 years old and I know exactly where to go for it, those who can't track it down (probably a washed up 30 year old who doesn't belong in the scene anymore) are obviously not as musically astute as they thought they would. I hope there is nobody taking offence to this post, however I am bemused that no Australian has brought this up thus far.
Does anybody actually realise the simple factor that has misconstrued this delineation between Australia and the world? Let me reiterate. USA- 260 million in a space around the size of Australia. Europe- hundreds of millions in tightly linked global community. Australia- 20 MILLION IN THE MOST GLOBALLY ISOLATED PLACE POSSIBLE FROM OTHER EDM NATIONS!!! Truth is, people, Australia has an unbelievably good scene, particularly Melbourne and Sydney. However, huuuuuuge parties are not always feasible as they are not commercially attractive enough for the big name jocks to make such a big trip over here.
When there are big events, they sell out, period. In the past few weeks ive seen James Zabiela and Hernan Cattaneo sell crowds out nation wide. If Australia had anywhere near the population of the US or Europe, it would be just as powerful as any other EDM nation.
Infusion, Anthony Pappa, Phil K, Luke Chable, Hellraiser, Nik Fish

For the record, no real EDM fan in Australia listens to Nik Skitz, which is more than I can say for some of the utter trash coming out of Europe atm

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Originally posted by Abhay The Aussie scene is so far removed from the rest of the world, it's not funny.

The most recent quote to be approved on Bash:

(LenaWarrior) Does Australia float around or is it stuck there
(KoreaPro) Are you serious?






P.S. Chable, Phil K, Infusion, Nubreed all = Win.
P.P.S. You guys also have someone going by "Trainwreckah" in your top 250
P.P.P.S. idk who the fk Kid Kenobi is.

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Originally posted by Abhay but that doesn't mean that because one great producer is FINISH, that EVERYONE WIL THINK THAT THE CENTRE OF TRANCE IS FINALND, and that FINLAND THRIVES ON TRANCE (though it certainly does relative to Australia).

...come again?

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Originally posted by ders07 okay, okay, i think we have heard enough ridicule of Australian dance music because one idiot doesn't know who Kid Kenobi is. Truth is, I dont like the music he plays, but he is a great jock. If you know where to look ( www.stomp.com.au ) for starters, you'll find the best quality edm out there, anywhere. I'm 17 years old and I know exactly where to go for it, those who can't track it down (probably a washed up 30 year old who doesn't belong in the scene anymore) are obviously not as musically astute as they thought they would. I hope there is nobody taking offence to this post, however I am bemused that no Australian has brought this up thus far. Does anybody actually realise the simple factor that has misconstrued this delineation between Australia and the world? Let me reiterate. USA- 260 million in a space around the size of Australia. Europe- hundreds of millions in tightly linked global community. Australia- 20 MILLION IN THE MOST GLOBALLY ISOLATED PLACE POSSIBLE FROM OTHER EDM NATIONS!!! Truth is, people, Australia has an unbelievably good scene, particularly Melbourne and Sydney. However, huuuuuuge parties are not always feasible as they are not commercially attractive enough for the big name jocks to make such a big trip over here. When there are big events, they sell out, period. In the past few weeks ive seen James Zabiela and Hernan Cattaneo sell crowds out nation wide. If Australia had anywhere near the population of the US or Europe, it would be just as powerful as any other EDM nation. Infusion, Anthony Pappa, Phil K, Luke Chable, Hellraiser, Nik Fish For the record, no real EDM fan in Australia listens to Nik Skitz, which is more than I can say for some of the utter trash coming out of Europe atm

YOu know why i think we're so far removed from the world?

Telecommunications.

Trance's good stuff pretty much thrives off of the internet. It's hard to know what the good stuff is unless u spend a reasonable amount of time on sites liek Tranceaddict, and listen to samples here and there of recently released tracks.

Now, Australia is a freaking huge country, and originally all telecommunications was government owned.

This means 2 things:

It costs heaps to spread all the lines and cables to other parts of the country (especially in the outback), and these areas have a very low population anyway, so it's not economically feasable for Telstra (the one company that's laying down nearly all of the lines here), to invest in these areas.

Secondly, lack of competition (And yes, the competition is starting to move now), means that the prices of getting the net here remains high.

All of this means that a large section of the Australian population can only get 56K speed internet. The average person here who CAN get broadband internet usually has 256Kb/s with about a 1GB download limit.

Meanwhile, in country's like South Korea it's quiete common for peopel to have 1.5Mb/s connections.

Last edited by Abhay on Jul-15-2006 at 16:12

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery ...come again?

meh,

i was thinking more along the lines of Darude (who i don't like or anything). Who happens to be way more well known than chable.

but if u like, u can pretend it's you.

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Originally posted by Abhay meh, i was thinking more along the lines of Darude (who i don't like or anything). Who happens to be way more well known than chable. but if u like, u can pretend it's you.

Er... right...

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