I understand that people deal with tragedy differently.

But does that mean that we have to wait till everybody heals
to remember the events?

I think Hollywood has a right to make 9/11 movies five years later
to educate those that want to learn.
I feel people on this
board want to limit the exposure of people to history that is
changing our world as we speak and that scares me because that sure doesn't sound American.

9|11

...was and will remain the best film on the subject, purely because it is nothing more than a real account of the events, not some hollywood rework.

I'll wait to see the film to judge, but I dont see how they could top it.


houseaddict, I am in no way turning away from the events. I know exactly what fucking happened, I watched the entire thing on TV. I remember it just as well today as I did while watching it from my house in France on a solemn afternoon in september 2001. I dont need some hollywood re-hash to remind me of what happened, or the horrors of it, or the heroics of some. Like I said... 9|11 was it...it is true, it is raw, and it is real. As told and recounted by those who were THERE...REALLY...not actors...

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Originally posted by houseadddict I understand that people deal with tragedy differently. But does that mean that we have to wait till everybody heals to remember the events? I think Hollywood has a right to make 9/11 movies five years later to educate those that want to learn. I feel people on this board want to limit the exposure of people to history that is changing our world as we speak and that scares me because that sure doesn't sound American.

for me it's not about dealing with tragedy or denying anyone else the right to watch a movie, i just refuse to pay for/support a production like this which is a blatant capitalization on tradegy and human emotion. i'm surprised mel gibson didn't jump to direct this as it is his forte. they will try and frame it in the best light they can, but in the end it's about making some money off an easy draw

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I agree that many on this board may not need a Hollywood re-hash.

But to reach kids these days this film can really tell a good
story. For those that don't need to see it then stay home and
wait until it's time to re-live that day. Whenever that may be.

But many global citizens need to be re-educated about 9/11 and this film, if
well done, can so that for many.

I think everyone should keep an open mind about

I saw the 9/11 documentary and it was very well done and
will be hard to top. But we need perspectives and
new cinema and not just stop making 9/11 work because its
been covered.

well i think if you want to inundate kids, there's already plenty of newsmedia and amateur footage thoroughly documenting the REAL event plus volumes of witness accounts, interviews and documentaries. do we really need to watch the towers collapsing from a ground zero point of view to appreciate the gravity and horror of the situation?

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Originally posted by lex400sc well i think if you want to inundate kids, there's already plenty of newsmedia and amateur footage thoroughly documenting the REAL event plus volumes of witness accounts, interviews and documentaries. do we really need to watch the towers collapsing from a ground zero point of view to appreciate the gravity and horror of the situation?

IMO- YES. So we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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Originally posted by houseadddict I understand that people deal with tragedy differently. But does that mean that we have to wait till everybody heals to remember the events? I think Hollywood has a right to make 9/11 movies five years later to educate those that want to learn. I feel people on this board want to limit the exposure of people to history that is changing our world as we speak and that scares me because that sure doesn't sound American.

Since when do kids need to watch a movie to get educated about a historical event ? Wouldn't they normally do this in school ?

I've seen too much abject narcissism from filmmakers and studio people to believe that this is anything other than self-promotion. Trivializing the scope of tragedy for someone's artistic expression (aka personal gain). Film should be used as a device for escapism. Full stop.

Loose Change >>>>>>>>>>> x1000 than anything Hollywood can make up.

I respect Oliver Stone...and probably like 90% of his movies, he should have passed on this one.

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Originally posted by Hypersky Since when do kids need to watch a movie to get educated about a historical event ? Wouldn't they normally do this in school ? I've seen too much abject narcissism from filmmakers and studio people to believe that this is anything other than self-promotion. Trivializing the scope of tragedy for someone's artistic expression (aka personal gain). Film should be used as a device for escapism. Full stop.

All the time. I remember they showed us The Patriot in History because of its relevance to the subject at hand. Many times have we been told to watch a movie as a means to learn about something. I think the government is behind these stupid movies that come out about 911 to counteract the truthful movies that come out about 911. The WTC will be 90% surrounded by lies...to begin with, given the FACT that 9/11 was inside job to capitlize on mideast oil. And dont say "but why would America kill 3000 of its own and ruin a building". American Politicans will kill 300,000 of its own to get hold of Oil, they arent the most moral human beings afterall.

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Originally posted by houseadddict IMO- YES. So we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

well imo the only reason anyone needs to see that is pure fascination with sensational special effects. it's not going to change anyone's feelings about what happenned. 'oh damn, i didn't know the collapse looked like that from the ground, i better support the war on terror now!' actually i give middle america too much credit, it probably will charge the schitzoid conservative base and swing some people to vote emotively on this issue alone

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you guys are getting a little over hyped here...no one seemed to complain about Pearl Harbor,Munic, or Titanic? so why can't this movie be made? hollywood has cashed in on dramatic stories for years, why can't they on this? as long as its done in good taste like United 93 was, then I have no problem with it. If this film honors those two men that went into the World Trade Center then there should be nothing wrong with it.
I can't wait to see it....