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Sasha
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Registered: Jun 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by riskytrader
It's unbelieveable that no the UN or other country has stepped in and done something.


I dont see anything unbelievable. Look who's standing behind this war like c'mon! i dont see any happy ending to this war...


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Tordan
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by riskytrader
If anything the entire world is being far too lax about the situation. It's unbelieveable that no the UN or other country has stepped in and done something.

I agree. How can they just stand there and watch them blow each other to bits? I just don't understand this BS sometimes.

/me walks away shakin his head


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Sasha
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Registered: Jun 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
what?
I don't know Karim well enough to contact him personally but because I started a thread to share his blog website doesn't mean I don't care.


ok, sorry Sarah, I didnt mean to offend u...
my reply was directed to whoever said that "his friends suck cause they havent started this thread before"


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Cosmic Fur
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Canada

Hoollyyy crap, I was not looking to pick any fights with anybody. As I said, I don't know the dude at all, all I know is that he left TOTA because he got pissed off with all the bullshit that goes on in here, so when I see a new thread saying "he's in lebanon, here is his blog", I assume that's it's more likely that he's there since recently rather than he moved there some number of years ago.

And sorryy for being politically incorrect and saying "shit bombed out of a country" instead of "political tensions".

For the record, I do not read Tribe, and I am not Mona, so I don't completely agree with what she said, but you guys are getting way too uppity over my post where I specifically said that I do not want to see his body in a bodybag because of "political tensions".

Edit: My post is a little late as I see the dicussion is closed, so ... not trying to get people riled up again.


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be safe Karim.. prayers are with you..


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For those who care, I spoke with Katy today and Karim is safe out of Lebanon and should be home on sunday.


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Wow when did he go to Lebanon? I just saw him recently at some party...he's a great guy, hope to see him back here soon.


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quote:
Originally posted by Tordan
I agree. How can they just stand there and watch them blow each other to bits? I just don't understand this BS sometimes.

/me walks away shakin his head


I am genuinely asking this - what do you think UN countries could do that wouldn't initiate more violence?

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This article is a very good read. Pretty much sums up why the UN isn't interfering in the matter. Its a well known fact that the states has the UN by the balls and I cant beleive its refusing to call for a cease fire until Israel rescues its kidnapped soldiers.

212 lebanese and 29 israelis have been killed and thats a huge difference. So even if lebanon has 20 soldiers hostage and lets say hypothetically kills them, i wonder if the states will call for a cease fire then despite the casualties still being hugely in israels favor

I used to always support israel in its conflict with lebanon and because Indian relationships with them are very good but they seem to be starting shit all around them since they became independent.


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NEW YORK (CNN) -- We Americans like to think we're a pretty smart people, even when evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. And nowhere is that evidence more overwhelming than in the Middle East. History in the Middle East is everything, and we Americans seem to learn nothing from it.

President Harry Truman took about 20 minutes to recognize the state of Israel when it declared independence in 1948. Since then, more than 58 years of war, terrorism and blood-letting have led to the events of the past week.

Even now, as Katyusha rockets rain down on northern Israel and Israeli fighter jets blast Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon, we simultaneously decry radical Islamist terrorism and Israel's lack of restraint in defending itself.

And the U.S. government, which wants no part of a cease-fire until Israel is given every opportunity to rescue its kidnapped soldiers and destroy as many Hezbollah and Hezbollah armaments as possible, urges caution in the interest of preserving a nascent and fragile democratic government in Lebanon. Could we be more conflicted?

While the United States provides about $2.5 billion in military and economic aid to Israel each year, U.S. aid to Lebanon amounts to no more than $40 million. This despite the fact that the per capita GDP of Israel is among the highest in the world at $24,600, nearly four times as high as Lebanon's GDP per capita of $6,200.

Lebanon's lack of wealth is matched by the Palestinians -- three out of every four Palestinians live below the poverty line. Yet the vast majority of our giving in the region flows to Israel. This kind of geopolitical inconsistency and shortsightedness has contributed to the Arab-Israeli conflict that the Western world seems content to allow to perpetuate endlessly.

After a week of escalating violence, around two dozen Israelis and roughly 200 Lebanese have died. That has been sufficient bloodshed for United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan and British Prime Minister Tony Blair to join in the call for an international security force, ignoring the fact that a U.N. force is already in Southern Lebanon, having failed to secure the border against Hezbollah's incursions and attacks and the murder and kidnapping of Israeli soldiers.

As our airwaves fill with images and sounds of exploding Hezbollah rockets and Israeli bombs, this seven-day conflict has completely displaced from our view another war in which 10 Americans and more than 300 Iraqis have died during the same week. And it is a conflict now of more than three years duration that has claimed almost 15,000 lives so far this year alone.

An estimated 50,000 Iraqis and more than 2,500 American troops have been killed since the insurgency began in March of 2003, which by some estimates is more than the number of dead on both sides of the Arab-Israeli conflict over the past 58 years of wars and intifadas.

Yet we have seen no rescue ships moving up the Euphrates for Iraqis who are dying in their streets, markets and mosques each day. French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin has not leaped to Baghdad as he did Beirut. And there are no meetings of the Arab League, and no U.S. diplomacy with Egypt, Syria and Jordan directed at ending the Iraqi conflict.

In the Middle East, where is our sense of proportion? Where is our sense of perspective? Where is our sense of decency? And, finally, just how smart are we?
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rabbitjoker
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

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Originally posted by Irishaddict
when they left nothing like this was remotely on the horizon.


AFAIK Lebanon has been on the "NOT SAFE. TRAVEL NOT RECOMMENDED" list of Foreign Affairs Canada and US Department of State for over a year.

Glad to hear Karim & his father is ok.


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Cosmic Fur
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lol, it's like the author of that article doens't know that America is run by Jewish people.


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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
lol, it's like the author of that article doens't know that America is run by Jewish people.





why do you say shit like this.


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