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KaiLee
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Registered: Dec 2005
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So they want to boycott all chinese products? What does that leave....maple syrup?

Yeah it's horrible what happened but they've been slaughtering dogs and cats for years there. What about pets being stolen and turned into "rabbit fur" so many people wear? It has to take something such as this in order to get people's attention?


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KaiLee
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Registered: Dec 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
damn racial comments


gotta love it....i've never met a chinese person that ate dog or liked eating dog


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neuromancer
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada

There is a precedent for this.

In China, the Great Leader Mao Tse-Tung decided in 1958 to get rid of sparrows, calculating that each bird (the tree sparrow) consumed 4.5kg of grain each year and that for every million sparrows killed, there would be food for 60,000 people.

He mobilised the population to kill the birds, to great effect: at least 2.8 million sparrows were killed in Shantung province alone. But what Mao had not taken into account was the number of noxious insects the sparrows consumed when rearing their young. The net result was that the following year the rice crop, far from being increased, was significantly down, The idea was quickly forgotten and the birds soon recovered to their normal level.

It almost caused an ecological catastrophe the mother f*cker.


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Elendil
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Registered: Jun 2006
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I don't really see the big deal. There, a dogs life is significantly less valued than here. How were they supposed to kill them, lethal injections all around? Too expensive, and too time consuming.

If they had a problem with Rabies, and they needed to eliminate the population, they made the right choice. Sure - it would have been sad, but thats their decision as a population, and I don't see why its that big of a deal. I'd rather have a pile of dead dogs, as opposed to having rabies.


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lol china is fucked up

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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

quote:
Originally posted by Elendil
I don't really see the big deal. There, a dogs life is significantly less valued than here. How were they supposed to kill them, lethal injections all around? Too expensive, and too time consuming.

If they had a problem with Rabies, and they needed to eliminate the population, they made the right choice. Sure - it would have been sad, but thats their decision as a population, and I don't see why its that big of a deal. I'd rather have a pile of dead dogs, as opposed to having rabies.


True. I suppose your right. We need to chanage our way of thinking when looking at this situation, and think that they're viewing dogs much like we'd view rats. (as a possible comparison)

Genreally no one over here would get upset if we killed a crap load of rats... yet many view rats as pets too. I had two, Nosey and Nipper when I was a younger.


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SniFFleS
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The have been slaughtering thousands of people over there too.

http://www.zhuichaguoji.org/en/

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quote:
Originally posted by SniFFleS
The have been slaughtering thousands of people over there too.

http://www.zhuichaguoji.org/en/

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be careful when reading this stuff and take everything as objectively as possible.. lots of controversy around the news reports about it


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KaiLee
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quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
True. I suppose your right. We need to chanage our way of thinking when looking at this situation, and think that they're viewing dogs much like we'd view rats. (as a possible comparison)

Genreally no one over here would get upset if we killed a crap load of rats... yet many view rats as pets too. I had two, Nosey and Nipper when I was a younger.


you're exactly right...the chinese have different classes and animals are at the bottom of those classes. There are TONS of stray dogs wandering around Taipei and I was always curious as to why they don't get aggressive with humans and bother them for food and my friend told me people just beat dogs here. No reason at all they grab an object and hit them. So yes, you could say that view them the same as our society views rats.

It's been going on for years and it's pretty sad it takes an event of this magnitude in order to get people's attention.


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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by KaiLee

It's been going on for years and it's pretty sad it takes an event of this magnitude in order to get people's attention.


Question though: Would treating dogs as such be any worse than treating rats as such over here?

(though thats not exactly the case, I know, since we dont go around randomly stepping on rats heads for no reason or throwing bricks at them or tossing them against vehicles (referring to that first picture in this thread)

I dont agree its right to hurt any animals as such. Only point is, to use my previous analogy of dogs to them = rats to us, that we should only be as outraged at this behaviour as we would if this had involved rats instead.


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evil_cookie
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
Dogs being walked were taken from their owners and beaten to death on the spot, the Shanghai Daily newspaper reported.

sick



wow...srsly, wtf.

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KaiLee
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Registered: Dec 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Question though: Would treating dogs as such be any worse than treating rats as such over here?

(though thats not exactly the case, I know, since we dont go around randomly stepping on rats heads for no reason or throwing bricks at them or tossing them against vehicles (referring to that first picture in this thread)

I dont agree its right to hurt any animals as such. Only point is, to use my previous analogy of dogs to them = rats to us, that we should only be as outraged at this behaviour as we would if this had involved rats instead.


I agree with you...the point I'm trying to make is they have been beating dogs and cats for years there. Hundreds of thousands of dogs and cats (including stolen pets) are inhumanely killed for fur trade in China but one never sees that getting a substantial amount of media attention....


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