G&D used laptop when they came to Cyprus...didnt even need their headphones

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Originally posted by the bee G&D used laptop when they came to Cyprus...didnt even need their headphones

Sasha doesn't use headphones most of the time either.

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Originally posted by Zoso So, when a DJ uses two laptops, what kind of beat matching is involved?

none ableton live beatmatches for u

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Originally posted by iammesol PvD "uses laptops" He really is just using a harddrive to hold his crap while he uses the same ancient turntable technology to spin.

and what exactly are you implying? Is there something wrong with TT's now?

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Originally posted by sleepydragon none ableton live beatmatches for u

Seems to me that the ability to beat match quickly and accurately is one of the "barriers to entry" for aspiring DJs. If software eleminates this, what stops every candy kid from becoming a DJ? Track selection? Programming? Something I am clearly missing?

I'm not trying to be a smart ass here. I am genuinely interested in what will seperate the men from the boys in the future, so to speak. Thoughts?

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY and what exactly are you implying? Is there something wrong with TT's now?

i'm "implying" that hes still using turntables to mix... his harddrive handles the actual tracks yes, but he manipulates them with tables.

BT ?

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Originally posted by iammesol i'm "implying" that hes still using turntables to mix... his harddrive handles the actual tracks yes, but he manipulates them with tables.

yes and....... nothing wrong with that

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Originally posted by Zoso Seems to me that the ability to beat match quickly and accurately is one of the "barriers to entry" for aspiring DJs. If software eleminates this, what stops every candy kid from becoming a DJ? Track selection? Programming? Something I am clearly missing? I'm not trying to be a smart ass here. I am genuinely interested in what will seperate the men from the boys in the future, so to speak. Thoughts?

well the only thing that worries me is that people who havent got a clue about djing will be able to go on this program throw a mix together and claim there the best thing since sliced bread even though in reality they havent actually got a clue about beatmatching or mixing.

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Originally posted by sleepydragon yes and....... nothing wrong with that

exactly

Maybe I am just biased because it's taken me a good 8 months to get comfortable enough beat matching that I wouldn't be scared to play for several friends at a house party. Of course I could just be an old fuddy duddy who thinks things should always be accomplished "the old fashioned way". I'm sure there are laptop DJs out there that would easily pwn me.

Still, if one is to DJ professionally, I think it would make sense to know how to beat match well if you don't use the skill often. You might end up with a set of Technics and no laptop at a gig, for example.

Last edited by Zoso on Aug-16-2006 at 19:07

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Originally posted by Zoso Maybe I am just biased because it's taken me a good 8 months to get comfortable enough beat matching that I wouldn't be scared to play for several friends at a house party. Of course I could just be an old fuddy duddy who thinks things should always be accomplished "the old fashioned way". I'm sure there are laptop DJs out there that would easily pwn me. Still, if one is to DJ professionally, I think it would make sense to know how to beat match well if you don't use the skill often. You might end up with a set Technics and no laptop at a gig, for example.

I started out using belt drive tts at Christmas of '03, and learned to beatmatch and mix with those, where I got extremely good at mixing because there was no uber awesome motor inside to give me a boost. I had to constantly be slowing down/speeding up the records. I loved mixing with tts because of the touchy feely vibe it gave off. I felt like I was part of the mix. However... this got boring.

I wanted to start spinning my own stuff so the on the Christmas of '04, I got some ghetto cd decks. That gave me the ability to loop, and I loved that. I learned cds much faster since they're pretty much the same as vinyl but without the tedious needle care and smooth touch to the record.

At Christmas of '05... I got a midi controller, and since then I've been using Live to mix. When I used tts and cds... I had never wanted to switch. I thought that Live would be too easy, and it would take away from the true feeling you get while mixing. I was wrong. Live is by far NOT "easy" as it requires musical knowledge of keys, time signatures and tempo. Live does NOT beatmatch for you, but rather allows you to beatmatch all tracks before you even spin them by using warp markers. I immediately fell in love with the program just by how much it can do. With the implementation of vsts, assignable knobs, buttons, and faders, using my laptop to mix has done much more for me mixing than any other piece of hardware ever had. I'll never switch back to cds or tts.


But... I still believe it's important though that people know how to beatmatch and program manually, because Live would've been retardedly confusing without learning to mix with hardware before. If I ever go on tour I will be sure to bring a book of cds wherever I go, because computers do have a tendency to crash, slow down, or just plain mess up. Imo, people still need to learn to mix with hardware before software, just as people need to learn to write before they type.