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Originally posted by Flotser Did Hitler really want to conquer Europe and exterminate the jewish race? Ask Chamberlain.

You think Iran wants to exterminate the Jewish race?

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Originally posted by Flotser Did Hitler really want to conquer Europe and exterminate the jewish race? Ask Chamberlain.

Oh come on...Hitler signed the thing, isn't that proof enough?

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Speaking of Hitler the only (cheap) hotel I could find in the city in Poland I'm visiting next month was frequented by Hitler when he went there!!!

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Originally posted by George Smiley You think Iran wants to exterminate the Jewish race?

Not realy. I do believe Ahmanindjad wants to destroy Israel though.

I just show you that no one believed than that Hitler would try to conquer europe and extermintae the Jews despite his actions and public statments.

Here is a nice link, please read it:
"Appeasement of Hitler"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeas...ace_in_our_time

I'll just quote some small parts:

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On September 27, 1938, when negotiations between Hitler and Chamberlain were strained, the British Prime Minister addressed the British people [1]. At the heart of why his critics view his policy as well-meaning but ultimately wrong [2] is this sentence from that speech: "How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas masks here because of a quarrel in a far-away country between people of whom we know nothing." A mere 20 years before Chamberlain addressed the British people regarding his agreement with Hitler, WWI ended in The Versailles Treaty [3]. Czecho-Slovakia was one of the original members of the League of Nations signatories of the Versailles treaty of peace. Part I, Articles 27–30, addresses the Boundaries of Germany. Part III, Political Clauses for Europe, Section VII, of that treaty addresses the Czecho-Slovak State. Yet, Chamberlain characterised the Czechs and the Germans as "people of whom we know nothing".

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Like many other dictators, diplomats of the time operated under the assumption that the Nazi Party, and Hitler, were rational actors who would stop when their defined goals were achieved.

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Originally posted by Flotser Not realy. I do believe Ahmanindjad wants to destroy Israel though.

Eventhough it's clear his comment was mistranslated and completely out of context. You have got to be kidding me.

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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Eventhough it's clear his comment was mistranslated and completely out of context. You have got to be kidding me.

Nobody is kidding. The only way that those comments being taken out of context would justify a bunch of silly smiley faces would've been if Ahmadinejad had said, "Israel should be wiped off the map...I keeed, I keeed. I love me some matzah!"

How was it taken out of context (on multiple occasions)? Frankly, given Iran's support of Hezbollah in its fight against Israel, how are you so blind to the obvious?

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Eventhough it's clear his comment was mistranslated and completely out of context. You have got to be kidding me.

First of all he said not once. He doesn't have to say extacly the words "I will destroy israel" to mean it.
In addition, He repeatedly denies the Holocaust.

and about that mistanslation.... you at least believe Al-Jazira?
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exe...3CE0E9957EA.htm

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Originally posted by Flotser First of all he said not once. He doesn't have to say extacly the words "I will destroy israel" to mean it. He repeatedly denies the Holocaust. and about that mistanslation.... you at least believe Al-Jazira? http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exe...3CE0E9957EA.htm

That's spooky...I was just on that website

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Originally posted by Flotser Not realy. I do believe Ahmanindjad wants to destroy Israel though. I just show you that no one believed than that Hitler would try to conquer europe and extermintae the Jews despite his actions and public statments. Here is a nice link, please read it: "Appeasement of Hitler" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeas...ace_in_our_time I'll just quote some small parts:

Ok so even when I didn't compare someone to Hitler I got some smart arse saying "oh the old so and so is Hitler argument"

Well I say to you!

Oh! The old Iran = Hitler argument?

And just for added effect --->

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Originally posted by Shakka Nobody is kidding. The only way that those comments being taken out of context would justify a bunch of silly smiley faces would've been if Ahmadinejad had said, "Israel should be wiped off the map...I keeed, I keeed. I love me some matzah!" How was it taken out of context (on multiple occasions)? Frankly, given Iran's support of Hezbollah in its fight against Israel, how are you so blind to the obvious?

The obvious?!?! Like supporting resistance to Israeli agression and military occupation?

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by Flotser First of all he said not once. He doesn't have to say extacly the words "I will destroy israel" to mean it. In addition, He repeatedly denies the Holocaust. and about that mistanslation.... you at least believe Al-Jazira? http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exe...3CE0E9957EA.htm

You do realize that a regime/the state != the people?

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by George Smiley Ok so even when I didn't compare someone to Hitler I got some smart arse saying "oh the old so and so is Hitler argument" Well I say to you! Oh! The old Iran = Hitler argument? And just for added effect --->

I think you are naive. Just like the world was naive before WWII.

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