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Halcyon+On+On
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

**I am not entirely sure of this**, but that graphics "card" sounds like something integrated into your motherboard. In which case, you would be totally fucked if you ever wanted to upgrade your graphics (which you totally would because that graphics card would NOT play Bf2, 2142 or Fear).

Looks like it has a good amount of RAM though and the processor is nice as well - those would support all the cool modern games very nicely. Might want to do some research on the graphics card though before you make a big decision like this.


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Nrg2Nfinit
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Ottawa

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
dont fall for their easy payments at 26% interest either.

you are too old for games
you can have my amiga from 1986



no.. your too old for games.. remember you have a child to take care of bud

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jdat
Jay Van Dat



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: I dont even know

quote:
Originally posted by dslim04
Just look it up google, and you'll find alot of complaints about them especially there customer support. Plus If your looking for gaming I recommend going custom built anyways. But those specs are like a year ago but you can play battlefield 2 or other games close to that. Alot of new technology are coming and when tht day comes, are you able to upgrade to it? Maybe not, cuz it may not be compatible for it. This computer is ok for like internet, typing, basic gaming. You have to think ahead when getting a computer. Mine is custom built and cheap but its ready for another 2 years of what's coming out in the future, I will be saving alot of money in the long run.

So I hope this changes your mind towards this computer.

How much is this computer that your going to purchase anyway?



Why does everyone bring up a weak customer support as a downside to purchasing Dell and then suggest building your own machine????
How are you ever going to get support if you build you own box?
Sure you'll get your motherboard RMA'd if it fries under the terms of the warranty agreeement but really ... support with homemade computers is non existent.


quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
**I am not entirely sure of this**, but that graphics "card" sounds like something integrated into your motherboard. In which case, you would be totally fucked if you ever wanted to upgrade your graphics (which you totally would because that graphics card would NOT play Bf2, 2142 or Fear).

Looks like it has a good amount of RAM though and the processor is nice as well - those would support all the cool modern games very nicely. Might want to do some research on the graphics card though before you make a big decision like this.


I would assume it's integrated to the motherboard as well but I do imagine that the has to be a jumper on the motherboard to disable the integrated graphic card that's another issue; as well as what other ports exist on the motherboard ( pci-e; agp; sli etc ).

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Spirit5
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Registered: Jun 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by strik3r
Now this is a shocker.

Anyway, in order to be a good gaming computer you're going to at least have to upgrade the CPU to a Core 2 Duo and get a real video card.


Most games nowdays don't make use of dual-core technology. That's still a few years down the road before it's neccessary. Most games run fine on Pentium 4s with at least 2.8 Ghz i'de say, and an 800 mhz Bus. If I were this guy i'de shoot for at least a 3.2 ghz Pentium 4 with 800 mhz FSB. It might not be a Pentium 4 Extreme Edition or an AMD FX-60, but it still should play games with at least 30 or 40 FPS with a good graphics card at 1280 X 1024 resolution with 2X anti-aliasing. 1280 X 1024 is the ideal resolution i'de say for most games on systems that don't have a really fast CPU. If you have a system with a dual-graphics card system and something like an AMD FX-58 or 60, or a Pentium 4 EE, in which case 1600 X 1200 with 4X or 8X anti-aliasing would be the ideal.

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Originally posted by Spirit5
Most games nowdays don't make use of dual-core technology. That's still a few years down the road before it's neccessary.


Sure they do. Or at least, all the good ones do.

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/core2/index.x?pg=5
http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/core2/index.x?pg=6

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Buye an Apple laptop ^_^ they are much cuter!

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SPACEMASTERS
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Umm Miiiaammii!!!!!

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Originally posted by Megan.Rockz
Buye an Apple laptop ^_^ they are much cuter!


So truueee.. I like my black lappy PRO!!!

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Zombie0915




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That would have been an excelent machine last year, it is what you would need if you wanted to play doom3.

But I wouldn't buy that right now, it will get left behind pretty soon. You can get 320 gig hard drives for 100 bux now, and the cheapest core2 will outperform the nicest p4 for less money.

My suggestions would be:
2 gig ram
core2
at least a 7600gt
sound card of your choosing
320 gig hard drive
dvd burner (40 bux)
logitech mouse (the dell mice are shitty for games like quake)
19 inch dvi monitor(not the dells, you want one that doesn't get blurry when you move)

lose the modem,
lose the aol,
lose ms works

You could get a pretty nice deal on a gaming machine from ibuypower.com or something like that if you dont want to assemble it yourself, but you save more money that way usually.

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Spirit5
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Registered: Jun 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by strik3r
Sure they do. Or at least, all the good ones do.

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/core2/index.x?pg=5
http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/core2/index.x?pg=6


Haha maybe now they are but I hardly play games or read gaming magazines anymore. I think i'm still stuck in 2005...because I really haven't played much since last summer (Doom 3, HL2). And back then I remember reading that games wouldn't use dual core technology for a while, but maybe that's changed in the past year....my next laptop will most likely have a Centrio Duo, hopefully one with a nice graphics card too so I can play some games better than the one I have...which really is just a portable desktop (or desktop replacement). It's a 3.2 pentium 4 with a crappy mobile 64 MB GeForce FX 5200 card...it plays games from 2001 to about 2003 okay, but forget Doom 3 or HL2..it's a slide show, even on lower resolutions...but i'm using a three year old Alienware AMD FX-51 with a 256 MB GeForce 5950 ultra, and it can play Doom 3 at 1600 x 1200 with 2x anti-aliasing at about 30 FPS, which is playable. Can't afford any upgrades...would have to get a whole new motherboard for any of the new PCI Express cards, and I don't play anymore so it's not worth it, but I could use a nicer laptop for school and ableton live hopefully...when I get it.

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EXTREMUM
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Registered: Aug 2006
Location: New York, USA

quote:
Originally posted by strik3r
Now this is a shocker.

Anyway, in order to be a good gaming computer you're going to at least have to upgrade the CPU to a Core 2 Duo and get a real video card.


I'm not even into gaming anymore, but I know a lot of what's involved with PCs. It's all about having the best and latest hardware. What I don't like about upgrading gaming PCs, is that it's almost comparable to the intervals and maintenance costs, of a moderate-priced European sedan.

Therefore, I'll settle with my XBOX, which also plays my DVDs rather well, and worry about paying for my European car maintenance costs, FOR MY CAR.

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N|te-L|fe
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Quebec

Hmm Dell cpus fail a bit when it comes to gaming, and if u really want a bomb you have to spend a ridiculous amount of money

plus Pentium 4 arent rly meant for gaming, AMD is what u need

I recently upgraded from a P3 to an AMD Athlon64 3700+ 2.0GHZ w/ 1Gram and Asus GF7600gs vid card and can play wow at full rez without any problems.. it ownz!


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XoxidE
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ok, im now thinking of building my own...but i have no idea how. Any websites that show that? also, i dont have much money to spend on it, that computer i was looking at first costs 515 shipped, the most i can spend on a computer, if i do build it myself, would be 630, no more than that. And that has to include the monitor :P.


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