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Originally posted by Trance Nutter yeah k I'm absolutely farked so maybe I'm not thinking the same lines you are, but..................... I thought you posting that list was to show that alcohol was number 5, above a lot of illegal drugs. Hence suggesting that many drugs are safer than alcohol And what narcism was getting at (I think) is that direct harm, that is directly caused by the drug, not by actions affected by said drug is less in alcohol if you took out road deaths (which are not caused by alcohol directly, but rather by actions affectd by alcohol). If you can follow that you're doing well cos i can't. So................... Yes, dead by road accident is still harm, but if you took out road deaths in every category there the results would probably be very different, reflecting direct harm caused by the drug.

The problem with some of this is that, if we are saying that ecstasy is bad for driving, and it probably is! Then road accidents would be occurring at the same percentage as they are for alchohol, therefore taking them out of the study wouldn't change it.

I put it up out of interest only I didn't actually state any opinions. I don't think any drugs are safe.

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Originally posted by DIDI Then road accidents would be occurring at the same percentage as they are for alchohol

thats why it would be interesting to see if there are any statistics out there, besides if you crash a car and the police are called your more likely to get breath tested than drug tested

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN ^^ yeah, but ive also never heard of anyone dying from pot. ever. getting stoned and rolling off a cliff maybe, but not just from getting stoned. 16 in one country in one year? i dont buy it.

Actually I would have thought there would be more if they are taking into account road deaths.

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Originally posted by narcism thats why it would be interesting to see if there are any statistics out there, besides if you crash a car and the police are called your more likely to get breath tested than drug tested

If you're still alive.They are giving out statistics on drug and alchohol blood tests on road deaths, so they obviously test for both when you get killed..

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Originally posted by DIDI If you're still alive.They are giving out statistics on drug and alchohol blood tests on road deaths, so they obviously test for both when you get killed..

so statistics only matter when someone is dead

The point of this drug testing is to try and cut down accidents, fatal or not, don't know if it will because there are a shit load of drunks still out on the roads.

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Originally posted by narcism so statistics only matter when someone is dead The point of this drug testing is to try and cut down accidents, fatal or not, don't know if it will because there are a shit load of drunks still out on the roads.

Who said that statistics only matter if you're dead?? Just responding to your reference to the likelihood of being tested for alchohol only by pointing out that deaths are tested for both.

Have to say i'm totally in favour of drug testing drivers. As someone said on ITM "If you drop and drive you're a bloody idiot"

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Originally posted by DIDI Who said that statistics only matter if you're dead??

the current statistics

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Originally posted by narcism the current statistics

Damn statistics are a bitch anyway

statistics will show anything you want them to. thirteenth percent of all people know this.

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Originally posted by Philby statistics will show anything you want them to. thirteenth percent of all people know this.

thirteenth?

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Originally posted by narcism thirteenth?

dj ballistic will get it....

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what are the chances of getting caught tho ?? then again its prob good for our health .. then again ... ugh

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