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Originally posted by Spirit5 I think if you have some good headphones..one's that are noise-cancelling..good isolation..then you are less likely to go deaf. Good headphones that can block out those high decibels from the club speakers and all of the ambient noise of a club. I don't do clubs, but in my room I turn up my monitors quite loud and with my new headphones (Denon HP1000), they block out a lot of the sound. So usually the only times I use my monitors are when I'm EQing after bringing in the tracks, but for beatmatching I use my headphones.

Headphones turned up really loud can actually be worse for your ears than have a club sound system sounding the same level because with headphones the sound is directed directly into your ear and is concentrated into your little bitty ear canal.

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Originally posted by Pattink Headphones turned up really loud can actually be worse for your ears than have a club sound system sounding the same level because with headphones the sound is directed directly into your ear and is concentrated into your little bitty ear canal.

Well I don't mean turning them up super loud. I mean if you have really good headphones with good isolation and are loud to begin with, your not going to want or have to turn them up as loud. I've noticed with the new ones I have, these Denon headphones, they get much louder and I know I don't want to f**k up my hearing, so I just turn them up enough that I can still mix with them. That way they still block out all of the external noise.

Poorer headphones, like the ones I had from Senheiser, I had to turn those up much louder because they weren't very loud, and they were poor headphones to begin with. So I think it's the same with monitors....some you just have to turn up louder because they aren't powerful or clear enough..in order to get your mix right, but if you have ones that are decent, you don't have to turn them up as loud, because the mix sounds cleaner at lower volumes. So I think good sound isolation is the key here, not neccessarily turning your headphones as high up as you can...that's just stupid. Your ears can only take so much and then they begin to hurt...

the dj booth with the monitors turned down is probably one of the quieter places in a club, other than bathrooms and stuff

just tonight, pounding system, turned down the monitors, was able to have a conversation normally with no problems

turn down your monitors and your headphones, your ears will thank you

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Here is proof:

I am friends with Matt Hardwick and he suffers with massive hearing problems:

I have warmed up for him and as soon as he gets on the decks the monitor volume greatly increases.

Matt suffers with Tinitus and also severe headaches and migranes as a result of this.

every person on TA who goes clubbing should own at least a pair of er-20's, the best £10 ive spent, ever. friend of mine suffers from tinitus caused from one night clubbing where the sound was way excessive, and i feel for him, not what anyone needs.

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Iv got friends my age (only 15) who are drummers. Some are already getting early signs of tinitus. Lucky for them I told them to start wearing headphones/earplugs when drumming.

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Originally posted by UniversalNation Here is proof: I am friends with Matt Hardwick and he suffers with massive hearing problems: I have warmed up for him and as soon as he gets on the decks the monitor volume greatly increases. Matt suffers with Tinitus and also severe headaches and migranes as a result of this.

$hit thats not good. I was in Gods last Friday watching Armin in the DJ booth from the side and I couldnt see any ear protection.

For the last year of my clubbing career I have been using ear protection in clubs for the whole night apart from the first hour or so when the volume is low and then a couple of times a night to appreciate a particular breakdown/string section etc!

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here's something i learnt from someone who did a guest lecture in our uni on audio stuff:

It's worse to pound your ears for a few hours everyday at around 90dB, than it is to go to a club once a week for a short time. He said that he's measured dB levels in a club with a decent meter, and the levels go from 110-130dB throughout the night and in different parts of the club.

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Originally posted by mrmonkey For the last year of my clubbing career I have been using ear protection in clubs for the whole night apart from the first hour or so when the volume is low and then a couple of times a night to appreciate a particular breakdown/string section etc!

that's really stupid! ears get "used" to the sound level they're used to and get damaged much easier if the level rises suddenly, like taking your plugs off in a loud club. you should only take them out when you've left from the club.

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If you take your plugs out though you listen to how loud it actually is its kinda scary.

I also feel for bar workers, LOUD music is bad, but people drunk and screaming down your ear for drinks orders is even worse, since your ears are very sensitive to vocal ranges. I was talking to a girl behind in my local super club and she told me that her ears ring the next day. She does a few nights a week for a couple of years, her ears will be fucked.

I'll also be honest about those ER20's.

I had some and used them a lot for clubbing, and to be honest when I lost them I was gutted. But then i used some cheap foam ear plugs, and they do pretty much the same job. Are far more comfortable, protect your ears more, and because club systems are so loud anyways the muffledness isnt that bad, certainly not massivly noticable.

When I used to work at an audio tech for a nightclub in town, I met more DJs who seemed deaf than DJs who seemed to hear properly. It's horrible and it's a shame that the ppl whom we entrust to entertain us are insisting on pumping the volume louder ALL THE TIME, and thus making thier own supporting fans DEAF at the same time. I only wish more DJs wore protection and more clubbers did too.

Avergae nightclub levels hover around 120db. Hearing that amount and volume of noise for 3 hours has been 100% proven to give you hearing loss.

EVERY TIME YOUR EARS RING... IT'S A SIGN OF ACTUALY PHYSICAL HEARING LOSS. It only goes away because the eardrums shut off the noise to act as a healing remedy.

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Whats the point of having SUPER loud music if it's going to eventually make everyone's ears degrade? I think there should be a standard level of volume in clubs around the world, some kind of volume that isn't rediculously loud, but not too low obviously. If everyone should wear earplugs, then there is something wrong with the club. I think there can be a comprimise in volume to save our ears.

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