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KilldaDJ
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Registered: Sep 2001
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bout 6-7 minutes? after that i just get bored


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minski
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Location: Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
bout 6-7 minutes? after that i just get bored

tick strongly agree

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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
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I'm sorry, but I can't see why a 12 minute track wouldn't fit on a vinyl...

When I was about 8 years old vinyls were still pretty much the shit, and I had a few of them, which contained 4 or 5 tracks per side. So I can't see why a 12 minute track wouldn't fit.

Of course I'm not the authority on vinyl, so I don't know if I'm missing something


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Nsonic
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Re: HOW LONG CAN A RE-MIx be in LENGTH-HELP!!

quote:
i am trying to releas my first ever electronic dance music track. - yoo hoo!

i am not a DJ and am unexperienced in many many matters with regards to what is needed.

i have a RADIO EDIT (3.30)

and now working on CLUB MIXES.

Have you been in the scene long?
Does the song like...not suck?

quote:

one of my club mixes seems to be going on and on and will likely be 12 minutes long.

is that too LONG??

If it isnt boring, no

quote:

I AM ALSO thinking of releasing the 12 minute CLUB MIX - JUST in a shorter version as well - say 8 minutes.


can a 12 minute piece fit on one side of a 45 R.PRM VYNIL record[/QUOTE]
yes
quote:

CAN a 12 minute piece only be released on CD.

vinyl and cd

quote:

do DJs not like 12 minute pieces incase they think its too long

depends on the dj, but the original-original of
Pryda - Aftermath was 14 minutes long and that got a few plays before the shorter 10 minute version was released

So is the radio edit, your song? or do you have a radio edit that you're thinking of remixing?

There are no set rules, but a club mix/version can be around 4-15 minutes
6-12 for trance, 4-8 for techno (unless when you say 'techno', you dont actually mean techno). Generally speaking

Got a sample of your song?
You sound like you're 15 years old

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Ishkur
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC
Re: HOW LONG CAN A RE-MIx be in LENGTH-HELP!!

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
i have a RADIO EDIT (3.30)


perfect length.

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
one of my club mixes seems to be going on and on and will likely be 12 minutes long.

is that too LONG??


There's no such thing as too long.

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
I AM ALSO thinking of releasing the 12 minute CLUB MIX - JUST in a shorter version as well - say 8 minutes.

can a 12 minute piece fit on one side of a 45 R.PRM VYNIL record


It can, but it will be a really shitty quality....waaaay too much compression. It will be beyond listenable.

I recommend: Don't do it. 7" 45s are only for radio singles...ie: tracks 3-5 minutes in length.

This is not a music production issue, this is an audio engineering issue and shouldn't be any concern of yours, the producer. If you don't intend to press your music to wax, then the size of your music doesn't have any constraints.

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
CAN a 12 minute piece only be released on CD.


Sure. There's no reason why it can't. Singles are released on CD all the time, though they are usually supplemented with remixes and reworks to give more added value for the purchase.

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
do DJs not like 12 minute pieces incase they think its too long


No. I told you this before, why don't you ever pay attention to me...it would save you tons of grief from asking the same stupid questions like an idiot.

The rule of thumb is: ALWAYS GIVE THE DJ MORE THAN HE NEEDS.

You're not giving him songs, you're giving him parts of songs (theoretically) that he will combine with other parts of songs to make a whole greater than the sum of its parts.

There is no set length to the music you release, but the more music you can give him to work with, the better things are for him.

Remember: You don't get to decide what DJs do with your music. They do.

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Nayil
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Location: Dallas,Texas
Re: Re: HOW LONG CAN A RE-MIx be in LENGTH-HELP!!

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Originally posted by Ishkur







No. I told you this before, why don't you ever pay attention to me...it would save you tons of grief from asking the same stupid questions like an idiot.



L O L O L


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DJ Mikey Mike
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This guy is quite obviously either a troll, or an absolute utter fucking spastic. In either case, he is a fat piece of worthless shit.

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Cloud
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: GRTA , Ioannina

rofl


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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
This guy is quite obviously either a troll, or an absolute utter fucking spastic. In either case, he is a fat piece of worthless shit.


plus he never gives out samples of the AMAZING tunes he is crafting.


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Nsonic
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
either a troll, or an absolute utter fucking spastic.

Lol, for a moment there, that reminded me of arcadia, back in the day.

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technomonster
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Registered: Apr 2006
Location: Australia
Re: Re: HOW LONG CAN A RE-MIx be in LENGTH-HELP!!

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
perfect length.




I recommend: Don't do it. 7" 45s are only for radio singles...ie: tracks 3-5 minutes in length.

This is not a music production issue, this is an audio engineering issue and shouldn't be any concern of yours, the producer. If you don't intend to press your music to wax, then the size of your music doesn't have any constraints.



THANKS ISHKUR for the advice.

i actually meant a 12 inch vynil at 45 RPM.

IS THAT POSSIBLE

ALSO THANKS Nsonic for your answers. they are a real help.

with regards to members here questioning my musical skills, i am okay at classical and world but cant seem to get this ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC easily. i dont have natural groove so everything is done analytically.
because of my classical background i cant sense how loud the drumming parts should be in comparison to the melodic parts, i tend to naturally have them much quieter than other recordings. and when i do raise the drumming volume it feels wierd for me to listen to it.
even though everyone who hears it says it should be louder.
GO FIGURE.

i have been working on this for 12 years, but at the same time have been experimenting with a new beat.
by the way ISHKUR your website electronic music history has been instrumental in me beginning to have a bit of an understanding of all this - greatly appreciated A I guess heaps of people on the globe have as well.

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Ishkur
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC
Re: Re: Re: HOW LONG CAN A RE-MIx be in LENGTH-HELP!!

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
actually meant a 12 inch vynil at 45 RPM.
IS THAT POSSIBLE


You can compress 23 minutes of music on one side of a 12" vynil without there being any noticeable difference or loss in quality.

Beyond that, things get a bit dodgy.

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