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Clovis
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I agree with Nik


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Floorfiller
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actually i think trance is one of the least emotional genres... that's why it's so terrible. it tries too hard to be emotional, but it just comes off as stupid...

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Spirit5
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actually i think trance is one of the least emotional genres... that's why it's so terrible. it tries too hard to be emotional, but it just comes off as stupid...


I think you have a point however it depends on the track. Many of the trance tunes being released currently do over-do it, and even some of the older, more anthemic releases do as well...especially the super-saw stuff. But with the tracks I mentioned, I think there is some more genuine emotion captured in them. I am finding some more emotional stuff in the downtempo and progressive house and deep house genres, so I do agree with Danny Ocean. But no one should deny that trance isn't emotional, but I wouldn't say it's the least emotional however. Some people equate emotions with emotional or soulful vocals, but I think the use of minor and major chords and the various chord progressions in trance definitely are emotional. The melodies and breakdowns in trance, when they aren't completely over-done, can sound very emotional, along with the layers produced by melodies and harmonies. I mean just listen to Solar Stone's "Seven Cities", that is a prime example of emotion conveyed brilliantly (well IMO at least, people can differ).

In my opinion, the least emotional would be hardcore, whether it's gabba or speedcore, happy hardcore or drill'n bass or whatever else there is. These tracks have almost no feeling except this cold, chaotic and sometimes downright silly atmosphere in them that makes the most anthemic and cheesy trance track sound really good. I mean this is a subjective argument and i'm not disagreeing with you completely, but there is definitely some truly emotional trance tracks. I don't think there's anything wrong with listing them either, really it's hard to talk about something without some examples as to what is emotional. I'de say i'm finding lately more emotional stuff in the progressive house and breaks area though, considering trance isn't as good anymore except the older releases IMO.

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gizzymcg
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Trance especially main room trance makes people feel happy and smile and have a good time. What is so wrong with that? Too many elitests on here and elsewhere concerning other forms of dance muic think this is a some sort of crime the way they go on. Dance music is supposid to be FUN and not taken all that seriously. "Good" trance enokes genuine emotion in people and thats a good thing in my book

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Trance especially main room trance makes people feel happy and smile and have a good time. What is so wrong with that? Too many elitests on here and elsewhere concerning other forms of dance muic think this is a some sort of crime the way they go on. Dance music is supposid to be FUN and not taken all that seriously. "Good" trance enokes genuine emotion in people and thats a good thing in my book


Exactly, people want to have a good time when they go out. Not everyone wants to hear some really dark banging stuff all of the time. It's nice to have some good melodies and nice beats or some really funky or epic stuff as well. People like music that speaks to them, that relates to them, that evokes emotions. Just like when people are down they listen to sad music, when people are out dancing at a club, they want music that is fun and relates to the environment they are in. Not everyone wants to go to some deep, dark rave or underground club....they just want to have fun.

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Originally posted by Spirit5
Exactly, people want to have a good time when they go out. Not everyone wants to hear some really dark banging stuff all of the time. It's nice to have some good melodies and nice beats or some really funky or epic stuff as well. People like music that speaks to them, that relates to them, that evokes emotions. Just like when people are down they listen to sad music, when people are out dancing at a club, they want music that is fun and relates to the environment they are in. Not everyone wants to go to some deep, dark rave or underground club....they just want to have fun.

I just like it in moderation, not track after track after track after fucking track after fucking track after fucking track after FUCKING TRACK after FUCKING TRACK after TUCKING FRACK after UCKFING CKRAT after...

Well, you get the point.


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I just like it in moderation, not track after track after track after fucking track after fucking track after fucking track after FUCKING TRACK after FUCKING TRACK after TUCKING FRACK after UCKFING CKRAT after...

Well, you get the point.


Yeah exactly it's good to have a variety of emotions but a set full of just this thumping or BOOM BOOM sound with no sense of humaness (ie emotionality) is to me...personally...boring as hell and wouldn't keep me interested.

It's nice to have some melodic tracks mixed in with some darker or more rhythmic stuff, like what Sasha did in the late 90s and even Oakenfold, and Tiesto. If you look back at some of the sets from the late 90s and early 00s, these guys were playing a mixture of uplifting and emotional music mixed in with some darker music. They still do, but now it's a mix bag, but you can definitely see an evolution towards a more anthemic sound for them around 2001.

For a little while, John Digweed was doing really dark stuff, and that got boring. I think some sets where Armin played anthem after anthem got boring as well, when it was all uplifting, but I think these past two years he has diversified some, because if you look back at some of the stuff he played in the early 00s, it had a little more variety. Seems like when he got bigger around 2003, 2004 and 2005, he started in the direction of playing a lot more big room tracks, without much variety in there....you know the typical Armada, ASOT sound. I don't think it's bad, but just gets boring.

Variety is the key here, and it can become overdone. But it could work if you were making a mix not for the dancefloor. Alucard has a cool mix on his website called "Mushroom Therapy 2" and I think it's a perfect example of an emotional mix with some variety and sounds more like a mix just to chill to than dance to in a club...ie. not a peak time club set....more like a warm up mix.

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erdega
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yes it is , no drugs and alcohol needed when I listen to trance. The most emotional tracks for me ever are Alititude-Sunray(Airwave Remix) and Floyd - Come 2gether among many others

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listening to trance/techno lifts my spirits, makes me feel better when im sad and gets me pumped up and excited!!!!

hooray for trance


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Ishkur
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Originally posted by Spirit5
One of the reasons i've been so into trance over the years is that it is more emotional than some other forms of EDM.


No it's not.

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Spirit5
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No it's not.


Your right...I concede. It's not emotional at all, it's rather cold and emotionless. These melodic, and uplifting tracks make me feel like shit, they have no emotion in them...oh wait they aren't trance I forgot! They are pre-packaged chickenshit...

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